Smoother Highway Ride for Coilover Conversion

[dhutton]

You could go lighter springs but then you have to run higher preload to maintain your ride height. I find that a lot of preload can lead to poor ride quality.

The reason shock adjustment doesn’t do a whole lot is because it’s rebound only. According to Ridetech the spring rate is so high that adjusting the compression damping has very little affect because the spring rate dominates. So they don’t offer compression damping adjustment which is difficult with a monotube shock anyway….

I put the whole Ridetech level 2 package with Truturn on my wife’s 69 Camaro. Hated the ride, it was harsh. Sold the car because of it.

Don

[NOVA]

Originally Posted by dhutton

You could go lighter springs but then you have to run higher preload to maintain your ride height. I find that a lot of preload can lead to poor ride quality.

The reason shock adjustment doesn’t do a whole lot is because it’s rebound only. According to Ridetech the spring rate is so high that adjusting the compression damping has very little affect because the spring rate dominates. So they don’t offer compression damping adjustment which is difficult with a monotube shock anyway….

I put the whole Ridetech level 2 package with Truturn on my wife’s 69 Camaro. Hated the ride, it was harsh. Sold the car because of it.

Don

I would agree with both adjustment & ride.
honestly, I cannot tell much difference turning the knobs one way or another, not really much there for adjustment wise to really make a significant difference, and the ride, not what I was thinking I would have as far as comfort, also agree about changing springs, I do not feel it would be worth it and do not think it would really change it that much to make a big enough difference in my case.

Now, it did lower it and it does handle like a slot car (I feel) but I do no course racing, it really is just a driver, but it does handle for sure.
Thanks

[dhutton]

Originally Posted by NOVA

I would agree with both adjustment & ride.
honestly, I cannot tell much difference turning the knobs one way or another, not really much there for adjustment wise to really make a significant difference, and the ride, not what I was thinking I would have as far as comfort, also agree about changing springs, I do not feel it would be worth it and do not think it would really change it that much to make a big enough difference in my case.

Now, it did lower it and it does handle like a slot car (I feel) but I do no course racing, it really is just a driver, but it does handle for sure.
Thanks

Yes it did handle well. But any discontinuity in the pavement was jarring.

Don

[piratebaseball]

Originally Posted by dhutton

You could go lighter springs but then you have to run higher preload to maintain your ride height. I find that a lot of preload can lead to poor ride quality.

The reason shock adjustment doesn’t do a whole lot is because it’s rebound only. According to Ridetech the spring rate is so high that adjusting the compression damping has very little affect because the spring rate dominates. So they don’t offer compression damping adjustment which is difficult with a monotube shock anyway….

I put the whole Ridetech level 2 package with Truturn on my wife’s 69 Camaro. Hated the ride, it was harsh. Sold the car because of it.

Don

I could be wrong, but did you go with Art Morrison front clip and IRS rear suspension? How does it compare to the ridetech ride? I've got the coilover system and 4 link, but it is the older style from back around 2008. Not really pleased with the ride quality of it.

[dhutton]

Originally Posted by piratebaseball

I could be wrong, but did you go with Art Morrison front clip and IRS rear suspension? How does it compare to the ridetech ride? I've got the coilover system and 4 link, but it is the older style from back around 2008. Not really pleased with the ride quality of it.

I built two Camaros. A 69 vert for my wife with full Ridetech and a 69 coupe with Art Morrison IRS and front subframe. Difference was night and day. The AME car is the nicest riding first gen Camaro I have been in by a wide margin. The Ridetech ride was harsh and we sold the car because of it after trying several spring rates. Even had Brett drive the car after doing all the things he recommended. Biggest issue was any discontinuity in the pavement.

It’s a shame the Art Morrison IRS is so expensive because it could be a real game changer imho.

Don

[piratebaseball]

Originally Posted by dhutton

I built two Camaros. A 69 vert for my wife with full Ridetech and a 69 coupe with Art Morrison IRS and front subframe. Difference was night and day. The AME car is the nicest riding first gen Camaro I have been in by a wide margin. The Ridetech ride was harsh and we sold the car because of it after trying several spring rates. Even had Brett drive the car after doing all the things he recommended. Biggest issue was any discontinuity in the pavement.

It’s a shame the Art Morrison IRS is so expensive because it could be a real game changer imho.

Don

Thank you for the reply. How do you feel the Art Morrison compares to the Detroit Speed subframe and quadralink set up as for ride quality?

[dhutton]

Originally Posted by piratebaseball

Thank you for the reply. How do you feel the Art Morrison compares to the Detroit Speed subframe and quadralink set up as for ride quality?

I prefer the Art Morrison. You just can’t beat a quality IRS for ride quality imho. The C6 front control arms with stock rubber bushings also give a great ride.

I think Mary Pozzi proved the AME IRS can be a serious autocross setup also.

Take a look at the frame Roadster shop released for trifives etc that is focused on ride quality to see what they have. No Camaro version though afaik.

Don

[NOVA]

Originally Posted by dhutton

I built two Camaros. A 69 vert for my wife with full Ridetech, The Ridetech ride was harsh Biggest issue was any discontinuity in the pavement.
It’s a shame the Art Morrison IRS is so expensive because it could be a real game changer imho.
Don

I seen this post had come up to the top, and pretty much Don summed it up again....I have tried different things and I just do not see it getting a whole lot smoother, my bad for not riding in more similar cars with my set up and other suspension set ups before going this route.

[dhutton]

Originally Posted by NOVA

I seen this post had come up to the top, and pretty much Don summed it up again....I have tried different things and I just do not see it getting a whole lot smoother, my bad for not riding in more similar cars with my set up and other suspension set ups before going this route.

Only thing I can suggest is to significantly increase the rebound damping and see if it makes a difference.

Don

[pannetron]

IMHO too much rebound damping is sure to make the ride harsh.