Those of you who run a full frame under your 1st gen Camaro

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by WaterCooledNelds

You're right, there are a lot of additional work to take into consideration going full frame.

I'm not going to run a cage because this car's main purpose is street use.

I still want it stiff enough to handle 600 bhp and occasional track use.

Main purpose or not a 600hp car that might see the track at all needs some kind of cage. Even a full framed car is going to flex and I would want the cage for safety reasons. Not running a cage is like saying " The main purpose of this car is to not go over 30mph, so I don't need seat belts, But I might go 50mph once in a while." But I will still skip the belts.

If your going to drive the car anywhere you might need a helmet, I would install a rollcage.

Even in the rookie run sessions at an open track day, you could see speeds above 70mph pretty easy at any given track, especially with 600hp. At a track like Buttonwillow where it would take amazing talent to hit a wall, you have the infield that had rolled a few cars that missed the turn or braked too late. They tell you in the drivers meeting if you go off the track just go straight and or only turn a bit, NO sharp turns to avoid a roll over. I would hate to be the guy who had to turn or slid off the track in a skid and happened to catch a rut and found out too late "Man I should have installed even a 4 point cage."


One of my first times at the track I saw a guy with a bad ass Cobra mustang run a few laps and at the end of the big staright away got on the brakes and just kept right on sailing, Through the grass, the infield and off into BFE. He had the stock cobra brakes and I would guess the engine made more HP then the Brakes could stop multiple times from the high speed the engine could propel the car too. I bet he decided as soon as he hit the Brakes and nothing happened....... I should have called WWWWIIIIILLLLLWWWOOOODD.


Track events are serious deals and require alot more then an autocross or street car. Unless your just out there for parade laps....

[fleetus macmullitz]

Rodger,

I should have clarified, I'm not planning a welded in cage, but I'll make provisions for the Ride Tech Tiger Cage.

Yes, safety is not something to gamble with, and I wouldn't.

Thanks.

[customcam]

500 hours is excessive
take it someone that has experience in doing it regularly, they dont sit there and scratch there head for hours and charge you for it...
500x75= $37.500

[nvr2fst]

Originally Posted by WaterCooledNelds

This is probably one of the sweetest "sleeper" cars Ive seen in awhile

[fleetus macmullitz]

Originally Posted by customcam

500 hours is excessive
take it someone that has experience in doing it regularly, they dont sit there and scratch there head for hours and charge you for it...
500x75= $37.500

Agreed.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Originally Posted by nvr2fst

This is probably one of the sweetest "sleeper" cars Ive seen in awhile

It sure is.