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**Matt@BOS** · #31 10-25-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

When you run over 25 events and 3500 street miles with not one single mechanical failure, let's talk.

That engine was one of the most powerful and reliable engines this circle has ever seen. If we would have been able to pick the cylinder head, use a single plane, and a bigger carb, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

I decided to recycle a few things from my first mistake, I mean engine.

It was the perfect combination for pro touring.

Reliable for an old school motor, yes. One of the most powerful and reliable in our circle, now that is a Todd statement.

You know the OLC makes similar power and drives more that 3500 miles in one week, every year, and has done so without issue, right?

And before you have a comeback about LS engines, let me just, "I know, I know..."

Vegas69 · #32 10-25-2012, 10:21 AM

I said one of the most, not the most. For old school, likely the most. The ribbing I could give you right now.

I'll save it for next time I see you.

**FETorino** · #33 10-25-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dolf

I wanna play!

437sbc, Dart aluminum block , est. 11.5/1, for pump 93
400+ cfm RFD 15* heads
Ported Mopar 5007420 single plane
Holley 950 ultra, may upgrade to a Braswell or Prosystems with road race floats
Solid roller custom spec'd by my builder
Callies lightweight rotating ass, Diamond pistons, Morel lifters, Jesel pro Series, Blah, blah blah

Should be on the dyno in Dec. Hoping for close to 800hp, 650tq

I like it. DG add him to the poll even though he's going to kick our A$$s

**FETorino** · #34 10-25-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

When you run over 25 events and 3500 street miles with not one single mechanical failure, let's talk.

That engine was one of the most powerful and reliable engines this circle has ever seen. If we would have been able to pick the cylinder head, use a single plane, and a bigger carb, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

I decided to recycle a few things from my first mistake, I mean engine.

It was the perfect combination for pro touring.

Its good to see the passion you had for your build that's probably why it turned out so sweet.

BUT If you made those mods and I had "no leg to stand on" then it's not the same combo and the rest of the statements might not be true. You may have gotten even more use our of your trailer.

Now my ancient big block is not targeted at peak hp or torque trust me it is designed FIRST to be reliable and durable just like it's ancestors that won LeMans. Blair regularly builds 900+hp FEs for SS competition so he and even I know where we left plenty of hp on the table.

Vegas69 · #35 10-25-2012, 01:51 PM

It wouldn't have changed the reliability. Streetability and autocross ability is another debate.

**Matt@BOS** · #36 10-25-2012, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

It wouldn't have changed the reliability. Streetability and autocross ability is another debate.

Alright, I suppose I have to give credit where credit is due. That engine in Payback is probably more docile and driveable that 90 percent of the modified LS engines I've driven. when I had to take the car down the street to that car show, it was totally the opposite of what I expected. Despite being loud and nasty sounding, it was super easy to drive. I would even complain about having to drive it in L.A. Stop and go traffic.

Rob, if you want your engine to be better than Todd's you should probably let me drive it to see how it compares.

Dave, I don't need to drive your car. I had an engine that didnt have any torque for the street, and I had a Mustang with LeMans stripes, I can pretty much imagine what your car will be like to drive. Ok, that and I know I would just stall it and embarrass myself

**FETorino** · #37 10-25-2012, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by badmatt

I do like the backwards heat dissipation idea though... Iron heads with an aluminum block.

Mattykins

In the past I've read a lot about how Iron heads make more power. I've had old time engine guys tell me the same thing.

Recently I've seen articles that debunk that myth or claim to. Those articles also say both head materials make the same power.

With an FE the head is actually small. The majority of the cool side is part of the intake manifold and so it's AL. The majority of the exhaust port is divorced from the main casting of the head. I think for Iron heads the design dissipates heat pretty well.

It does make you think more about cold valve lash.

Vegas69 · #38 10-26-2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A

Alright, I suppose I have to give credit where credit is due. That engine in Payback is probably more docile and driveable that 90 percent of the modified LS engines I've driven. when I had to take the car down the street to that car show, it was totally the opposite of what I expected. Despite being loud and nasty sounding, it was super easy to drive. I would even complain about having to drive it in L.A. Stop and go traffic.

Rob, if you want your engine to be better than Todd's you should probably let me drive it to see how it compares.

Dave, I don't need to drive your car. I had an engine that didnt have any torque for the street, and I had a Mustang with LeMans stripes, I can pretty much imagine what your car will be like to drive. Ok, that and I know I would just stall it and embarrass myself

I forgot about you driving my car.

I'm surprised to hear you say it was more docile than the LS. I haven't driven many LS engines but cubic inches equals easy torque. That's why Rob's engine will be a much better street mill.

**Flash68** · #39 10-26-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dolf

I wanna play!

437sbc, Dart aluminum block , est. 11.5/1, for pump 93
400+ cfm RFD 15* heads
Ported Mopar 5007420 single plane
Holley 950 ultra, may upgrade to a Braswell or Prosystems with road race floats
Solid roller custom spec'd by my builder
Callies lightweight rotating ass, Diamond pistons, Morel lifters, Jesel pro Series, Blah, blah blah

Should be on the dyno in Dec. Hoping for close to 800hp, 650tq

Chris... dude... that's really not a fair fight!

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Originally Posted by Matt.A

Dave, I don't need to drive your car. I had an engine that didnt have any torque for the street, and I had a Mustang with LeMans stripes, I can pretty much imagine what your car will be like to drive. Ok, that and I know I would just stall it and embarrass myself

This baby cammed motor should have have plenty of torque for the street. A helluva lot more than my 377.

But yes I would enjoy watching you modulate the Tilton triple disk. I'll be sure to learn myself when no one is around.

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

That's why Rob's engine will be a much better street mill.

Easy killer...

dolf · #40 10-26-2012, 04:45 PM

Awww, come on DG... same cubes, mine is wet sump, both peak around 7k. I'm just playin around anyway. I will race you guys around Laguna Seca if I make it out that way or i'll meet ya in the middle somewhere. To tell you the truth, i'm a little jealous of your setup over mine. Sb2.2 is sexyyyy, same with side oiler! People will look at mine and be like, "meh, looks like a normal sbc".