HMMM which headers do I get?

[deuce_454]

its ALWAYS cheaper to do it right the first time, so shelling out 1500 for a set of custom headers the first time out is cheaper than first buyinga set of shorties and ditching them because of poor performance, then a full length generic that you ditch because of low to no ground clearance and then finally 1500 for the right one....

[Steve Chryssos]

Originally Posted by 6'9"Witha69

Yeah, I lost quite a bit going to shorties for ground clearance. The Stahl are supposed to be really good, but I really don't feel like getting belittled on the phone when ordering!

Stahl isn't the only problem. It seems to be impossible to get header dimensions from any manufacturer. Universal fit headers designed for jacked up drag cars from the early 70's don't work. I believe Stainless Works already makes appropriate parts, but I have yet to extract dimensions or useful pictures from their website. Makes it difficult to take my wallet out. It's a marketing problem. Add some dimensions and detailed pictures to the website. Tell us the distance from the pan rail to the top of the collector. My own car, I settled for a set of Hedman race headers off the Mule with almost two inches from the top of the collector to the floorboard. Why? I'd rather see a disclaimer that states: "WARNING: Check clearance to floorboards" I'd rather massage a floorboard once instead of slowing down for every mid corner bump. If you gotta slow down for corners it ain't pro-touring. We've got a set of headers on the pace car that could double as jackstands. Ended up raising the car. It looks a little funny for now, but that's better than slowing down for corners.

I'm frustrated enough that I plan on taking a number of cars over to Kook's for measuring--starting with the pace car. I'll put George Jr. in the pro-touring header business. We need ground clearance and big tubes for both stock and aftermarket clips. Just about EVERY new hot rod is built low these days. Furthermore, average power levels continue to escalate. So the market exists for 1-3/4" -plus, low ground clearance pipes.