I wonder why you dont see more mustangs as retro mods - g machines

[sacarguy]

i dont like the cobra irs its relativly week and for the cost of a good set of half shafts for it you can buy a nine inch rear it doesnt handle any better then a properly setup panhard or watts link rear and its expensive to put it in the car the right way instead of the cobled up kits they sell out there
< like the ones where you are susposed to cut a few inches off the cradle and then weld it back together >

the suspension under my 66 is a nine inch with panhard and a four bar system.

im not talking about a rare case..
i see them all the time for around that here in texas good running cars are around 14 k if you want something some what cleaned up then youl spend around 18-25 k depending on the amount of work etc.

hell uniqe performance just went bankrupt and i saw over 19 shells that went for under 5 grand at that auction

my budy cleaned up he scored a 71 cuda for 6500 and sold it with out touching anything for 12,500 on ebay it had already been soda blasted and put into primer

[Dodgenut64]

Half of those million mustangs rusted away because of those pesky leaky cowls, just kidding. Id like to see more mustangs aswell, but to be honest ld love to see more falcons. I dont know if Id fit in one (6'3"), but Id love to have a 63 falcon convertible in my dream collection. I think the early falcon, like the early Chevy II, were cool compact cars. I dont know why, but youd think being taller Id like bigger calls, but I seem to like the smaller cars, provided I have enough leg room. I guess its kinda like a short guy loving big 4x4 trucks.
I kinda see your point though, youd think sense the mustang out sold the camaro by so much, that youd see forums like this flooded with them, with camaros in smaller numbers. Ive also noticed that camaros way out number the firebird. Why arent people doing more of them? I think the firebird looks awesome and can be had way cheaper then the camaro.

[427gt500E]

Originally Posted by sacarguy

i dont like the cobra irs its relativly week and for the cost of a good set of half shafts for it you can buy a nine inch rear it doesnt handle any better then a properly setup panhard or watts link rear and its expensive to put it in the car the right way instead of the cobled up kits they sell out there
< like the ones where you are susposed to cut a few inches off the cradle and then weld it back together >

the suspension under my 66 is a nine inch with panhard and a four bar system.

im not talking about a rare case..
i see them all the time for around that here in texas good running cars are around 14 k if you want something some what cleaned up then youl spend around 18-25 k depending on the amount of work etc.

hell uniqe performance just went bankrupt and i saw over 19 shells that went for under 5 grand at that auction




my budy cleaned up he scored a 71 cuda for 6500 and sold it with out touching anything for 12,500 on ebay it had already been soda blasted and put into primer

I decided to go the IRS route because it is different.This rear will handel around 1000hp and my Shelby motor is supposed to put out about 850.It's easy to install a straight axel,I wanted something rather unique. I'm a huge Mustang fan and recently sold a 69 Prostreet Mustang that went to Canada.I also own an original 69 GT500 fastback.

Humm,I was a bidder at the UP auction trying to score another shell.The problems with the lower dollar shells was the poor craftsmanship and 8 gallons of silly puddy per panel.


Oh,and those 19 shells your mentioned,take a look at the attachment of what your getting for 5k.The cheap ones were very,very poor workmanship and that's why they sold so low.So I suppose the theory holds true that there are just more Camaro shells for realatively low $$.And the aftermarket crowed cators the Chevy.
http://www.maxanet.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi

[sacarguy]

Guess what i do for a living ? I own a late model performance shop that SPECIALIZES in fords particularly efi forced inducion and late model cobras.
No cobra irs will hold 1000 horsepower without a set of 1500 dollar half shafts the stockers die around 600 rwhp with any kind of a sticky tire and honestly i see more 03 cobra rear ends in these cars do to it being the "cool" and "different" thing to do then I do proper solid axles .. especialy as i said with all the crap kits out there to put them in the cars.

im not talking about some nine inch on a leaf spring set im talking cuting it all out and doing a solid axle rigth with a panhard or a watts link.


as for the unique acution obviously you didnt go look at the shells in person.

90 pecent of them were not painted or restored just in various states of blasting and or primer and alot were just sitting there unrestored at all

the finished shells were not of poor quality at all i was personaly there and inspected several and they were not that bad body work wise.

you been watching to many bs tv stories

have you ever been in abody shop when a show paint job is being done ?

ever seen american hot rod and boyds street rods ? ever seen how much putty they put on one of those cars.

in a proper paint job if you want the car perfectly straight you may put 8 gallons of putty on .. but you sand 7.75 gallons of it back off.

the only way you get a car that straight is to do that simple as that .. now i prefer lead work in the seams etc.

[427gt500E]

Originally Posted by sacarguy

Guess what i do for a living ? I own a late model performance shop that SPECIALIZES in fords particularly efi forced inducion and late model cobras.
No cobra irs will hold 1000 horsepower without a set of 1500 dollar half shafts the stockers die around 600 rwhp with any kind of a sticky tire and honestly i see more 03 cobra rear ends in these cars do to it being the "cool" and "different" thing to do then I do proper solid axles .. especialy as i said with all the crap kits out there to put them in the cars.

im not talking about some nine inch on a leaf spring set im talking cuting it all out and doing a solid axle rigth with a panhard or a watts link.


as for the unique acution obviously you didnt go look at the shells in person.

90 pecent of them were not painted or restored just in various states of blasting and or primer and alot were just sitting there unrestored at all

the finished shells were not of poor quality at all i was personaly there and inspected several and they were not that bad body work wise.

you been watching to many bs tv stories

have you ever been in abody shop when a show paint job is being done ?

ever seen american hot rod and boyds street rods ? ever seen how much putty they put on one of those cars.

in a proper paint job if you want the car perfectly straight you may put 8 gallons of putty on .. but you sand 7.75 gallons of it back off.

the only way you get a car that straight is to do that simple as that .. now i prefer lead work in the seams etc.

Since you do own a performance shop then I would imagine you've heard of Level 5 halfshafts? That's what this car will use and will handel every bit of the 850 advertised hp from Shelby.

Did you realise UP was using prison labor to build their cars?
I have some actual video of the prioners using buckets of bondo filling up holes and rusted panels.I sure don't want to get into a pissing match with you and it has been an interesting conversation.Take care

[sacarguy]

yup and like i said for the 1500 bucks you spend JUST for those half shafts you can get a right length nine inch with brackets and axles and third member wich is far stronger..

even with the level 5 half shafts the stock cobra dif will give out with any hard drag use above 800 horsepower I would know i broke two of them in my 2006 mustang wich makes 750 rwhp

and you also have to spend a grip of money on irs bushings etc to properly setup a cobra irs you will spend aproc 2500 bucks to make a cobra irs handle 800 + horsepower and you stil havent put the thing in the car..

Like I said you need to stop watching tv shows UP was using prisoners to do stripping and removal blasting primering etc and instaltion of panels just basic stuff NOT any kind of finish body work that would take serious skill that was done at UP at one of its locations.

you are simply falling for the BS tv inflamation of the story.



i have personaly had several of the UP elenor cars on my chasis dyno here in san antonio and been over them and they were not as you describe.

[G-Body]

Originally Posted by Streetking

They are around..

SW

This is going out on a limb for me but this stang is the sweetest Stang I have ever layed eyes on!
Im not a ford guy " except old hot rods with chevy engines"
and have never been a mustang fan but Damnnnn this is so me theres alot of cars that yo uwill see and say thats nice but id change this and maybe that not this stang wow..... well maybe if it had a Chevy motor lol

[427gt500E]

Do you happen to know anyone who bought a UP shell? I happen to know 3 people that bought shells at the auction,just to get them home and find out they must start completely over.And these shells weren't your 5000.00 shell,these shells ranged anywhere from 15 to 23k.

As for prison labor not building the building the cars, your wrong.They did every part of the bodywork except for painting.Were some cars built at the facility,yes,were all built there,no. Would you like me to post a link for that so you can see with your own eyes? Hasty isn't your brother in law by chance?

As for drag racing my car,where'd you come up with that.I never said it was a drag car.This car is slated for a show/road race car.

So,you build the car the way you like it and I'll build mine the way I like it.

[907rs]

I think you guys need to take your disagreement to pm's. I'd sure hate to see this thread get locked.

[bill amsley]

Originally Posted by 427gt500E

Do you happen to know anyone who bought a UP shell? I happen to know 3 people that bought shells at the auction,just to get them home and find out they must start completely over.And these shells weren't your 5000.00 shell,these shells ranged anywhere from 15 to 23k.

As for prison labor not building the building the cars, your wrong.They did every part of the bodywork except for painting.Were some cars built at the facility,yes,were all built there,no. Would you like me to post a link for that so you can see with your own eyes? Hasty isn't your brother in law by chance?

As for drag racing my car,where'd you come up with that.I never said it was a drag car.This car is slated for a show/road race car.

So,you build the car the way you like it and I'll build mine the way I like it.

not to enter someoneelses argument uninvited ,but the people you know, who obviosly know so much. shouldent have bid so much on a 5000$ CAR . ive been to plenty of auctions its always buyer beware esp. at a bankrupcy auction.(thats just my opin.)