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Old 05-23-2008, 07:23 PM
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well, it's not looking good for Power Tour, as this damned car is fighting and screaming till the very end. As soon as I solve one issue two more crop up. I think I'll run out of time.

Right now, no speedo and related, no trans shifting. VSS issue I'd guess, but not sure how to solve it yet. Then as it was idling all of a sudden both pipes started smoking a lot. My guess, oil from the turbo drains backing up or just too much oil period. I have a ported pump on this thing and about 45 psi at idle, maybe it's just too much. The drain lines are 5/8" i.d. and are kink-free downhill to the pan. It's run this long before and never done this, but of course it starts now. I have the proper oil restrictor fittings Precision supplied with the turbos, so I dunno...........

Haven't driven it more than 200 ft without some major issue cropping up like my valve covers melting.............. which of course caused a massive oil leak that drenched everything. Not the fault of the covers, I'm going to run the same ones on another LS build, just not on a turbo car with the headers right next to the covers. Everybody with them on normal motors have not had any issues, great pieces.

So as you see, I've got several big things to sort out, and honestly I'm burnt out on this car. It will get sorted, but I really set my goal of one month for teething pains; one week may not be enough.

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Then as it was idling all of a sudden both pipes started smoking a lot. My guess, oil from the turbo drains backing up or just too much oil period. I have a ported pump on this thing and about 45 psi at idle, maybe it's just too much. The drain lines are 5/8" i.d. and are kink-free downhill to the pan. It's run this long before and never done this, but of course it starts now. I have the proper oil restrictor fittings Precision supplied with the turbos, so I dunno...........

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Jody I've had this issue with Precision turbos before. After sending the turbo back 3 times to get new seals, Pat and Harry both said just start the car and get into as much boost as you can right away. The turbo seals were just not seating like they should, and had smoke out the tailpipe. I setup the anti-lag and twostep in the ecu, started the car rev'd to 5000rpm and 20psi, they didn't smoke a lick after that. But cleaning out the exhaust was a PITA!!!

Hope you get the car sorted out and stay positive we're all behind you!!!
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:42 PM
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Jody if it was easy everyone would have bad ass cars. Some cars go smooth as silk and some fight the whole way.

Just a thought but what is the Id in the #10 fitting connected to the turbo. Some company make pretty small bore on the fitting which restricts flow alot.
Just a thought.

Don't give up, you have come way to far. When you make the Power Tour it well all be worth it.
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Jody I've had this issue with Precision turbos before. After sending the turbo back 3 times to get new seals, Pat and Harry both said just start the car and get into as much boost as you can right away. The turbo seals were just not seating like they should, and had smoke out the tailpipe. I setup the anti-lag and twostep in the ecu, started the car rev'd to 5000rpm and 20psi, they didn't smoke a lick after that. But cleaning out the exhaust was a PITA!!!

Hope you get the car sorted out and stay positive we're all behind you!!!
that's possible, but will be a real pain in the ass since I don't have the car tuned and it doesn't want to upshift........... . It's real embarrassing driving around smoking like this. I just tried to lower the shift points as I logged the trans controller and it has a mph signal, just won't upshift so some other table must be over-riding it.
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:03 PM
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Jody if it was easy everyone would have bad ass cars. Some cars go smooth as silk and some fight the whole way.

Just a thought but what is the Id in the #10 fitting connected to the turbo. Some company make pretty small bore on the fitting which restricts flow alot.
Just a thought.

Don't give up, you have come way to far. When you make the Power Tour it well all be worth it.
these are XRP pushlocks, which are actually bigger than standard braided in the same size. A #10 pushlock is a real 10/16 (5/8") id whereas in an it's smaller.

I had a return pump stop pumping on my GTO and I thought I'd blown the motor up......... And it is a real pain in the ass to get the oil out of the exhaust if this is what is happening.
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Thermotec for their heat sleeve and sound deadening products
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Vintage Air for their new Mid Mount LS front drive
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jody, do not plug the speedo into the pcs speedo wire until all other parameters are tuned.
make sure you got tps, low thru high signal, and 12 volts to controller, as well as rpm and your good to go, leave speedo un hooked until the end.
i take it the computer is picking up the controller in the program, try putting it in manual mode and paddle shift up and down thru the gears. also the tranny solenoids should be humming when key is turned on
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the speedo is known to cause the tranny not to shift, steevo always says to leave it until tranny is tuned perfectly
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the tcm has a mph signal. I used the speedo signal out for the speedometer, so maybe the speedo just needs a re-cal. Gonna be tough to un-hook the speedo I think..............

The paddle shifter has no affect. Steve gave me a couple things to look at, but if I can't get the smoke under control it's not gonna happen. That was all I needed at this point............
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McLeod Racing for their RXT street twin clutch
Ididit for their steering column
Holley for their EFI and engine parts
Lokar and Clayton Machine for their pedals and door and window handles
Morris Classic Concepts for their 3 point belts and side mirrors
Thermotec for their heat sleeve and sound deadening products
Restomod Air for their Tru Mod A/C kit
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Magnaflow for their 3" exhaust system
Aeromotive for their dual Phantom fuel system
Vintage Air for their new Mid Mount LS front drive
Hydratech Braking for their hydroboost system
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:50 PM
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VERY nicely done! I would love to see it in person.
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I agree!! This car is BAD ASS and I bet its way better in person. I love this malibu.

Jody, you did a gret job with the car and I love the attention to detail. Its the little details that make a car IMO.
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Jody I can understand the frustration you're going through right now but you have to fight it. That oilsmoke is of course not good but try to solve the problems and your reward will be satisfaction.

After all it is better the jinxes show up now than out on the tour.


Keep the spirit man!!


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