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Old 10-23-2008, 05:24 PM
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thanks guys. I am planning to have the top of the frame even with the top of the outer rocks... just like the yellow camaro on the AME website. I guess my next step is to go visit some shops.

Any suggestions here.. besides Comp Spec? Hot Rods Inc. say that they are authorized AME distributors.
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Pro-Rides Warrendale, PA

Hot Rod Garage Denton,MD

Both are great shops ant are the two that came off the top of my head.

Comp Specialties in Walpole MA are also great guys, a site sponsor here and a great contributor to the forums.

Hot Rods Inc -the name sounds familiar, but we have a lot of "Hot rod XXXXX" companies - where are they located.
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Old 10-26-2008, 08:49 PM
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The seats will also be an issue since the floor of the car has been raised above stock. If the customer is tall the inside passenger compartment can get pretty tight. The floor will now be higher or even to the rocker.

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Do you know what size guy can fit comfy if the floors are even with the top of the rocker?
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According to their website http://www.hotrodsincorporated.com/ they are an Art Morrison Authorized Dealer.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:30 PM
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If you look at a stock Camaro. Not only is the front of the seat pan a little below the top of the rocker. But the seat pan also goes much lower as the seat goes back making more head room for the taller person with the seat back for leg clearance. Most are comfirtable in a stock Camaro at 6'3" or so and shorter. Your raising the seat 2 to 2 1/2" at the top of the rocker.

You can spine and backbone the frame and do floor pans at the bottom of the rocker ala belly pan (seeProject Prodigy), but you just added a LOT of labor time to the project
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:33 PM
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I saw a mid construction camaro today with the max g chassis underneath. What peaked my interest is that the frame ran flush with the inner rocker panels. However, the convertible on art morrisons site has the inner rockers removed and the frame is running parallel to the out rocker lips/flanges.

Is the width a choice when ordering the frame? Any comments?
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Is the width a choice when ordering the frame? Any comments?
Pretty much any width you want, in 1/8" increments and up to 65" or so.

As far as the seats go, stock Camaros use very tall seat brackets. You can use much shorter brackets (say, the common types used for racing seats) to gains lots of head room. We've had guys up to 6'5" or so fit comfortably using our chassis, so it's pretty much up to the builder on how the seat is mounted.

In short, while headroom would seem to be an issue, it rarely is.
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So it is conceivable that the frame you have has on your website under the convertible 69 camaro(frame meets outer rockers) is wider than the one I saw at a shop where the frame met the inner rockers.

Are there benefits/drawbacks to each install?

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I think the biggest mistake you can make would be to order the frame yourself and then bring to a shop. You can see by the replies that everyone has their idea of how to do things. Ordering a specific configuration and then bringing to a shop that does it a different way will cost you in the end. Plus if they are a dealer there will be savings and ease of shipping.

There is more to just buying a frame and putting it under the car, 10 shops will give you ten ideas how to mount and modify the surrounding sheet metal. Also make sure the shop can handle the sheet metal work as every piece of work on a custom car requires thought as to how you will proceed with the next part. Every mod effects 5 other parts.

If you drop off a body that is totally rust free you have to be looking at at least $10-$15k to deliver a rolling body back with no unfinished edges. There is $5k in rims and tires at that size. You are also easily looking at $75k into the car as you are now modifying every part that mounts onto that frame. Big difference in price from bolt on suspension and custom one off frame up build. Just trying to inform of real costs as you will be shocked how quick a build like that ads up.

You have the names of a couple shops go sit down and talk to them and make sure that is the route you and your wallet can handle. No disrespect meant as you might be able to afford 3 of them but would like to see you finish a project than sell it a 50% unfinished on EBAY.

Good Luck!!
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Old 11-04-2008, 04:17 PM
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Thanks for your advice. Asking how the shop will install it and ordering to their specs does make more sense since they will be giving me the bill.

The reason I was asking if there is a difference between install flush with inner rocker vs flush with outer rocker was because I saw a camaro mid construction with a frame underneath it about a week ago. After the builder explained everything he did, it seemed like it was something I might debate undertaking myself. If I get caught up I could always bring it to a shop to finish/fix. There is a place nearby that can bend big pieces of sheet metal.

Feel free to wack me in the head and tell me to give it to a shop or to edge me on hah.


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I think the biggest mistake you can make would be to order the frame yourself and then bring to a shop. You can see by the replies that everyone has their idea of how to do things. Ordering a specific configuration and then bringing to a shop that does it a different way will cost you in the end. Plus if they are a dealer there will be savings and ease of shipping.

There is more to just buying a frame and putting it under the car, 10 shops will give you ten ideas how to mount and modify the surrounding sheet metal. Also make sure the shop can handle the sheet metal work as every piece of work on a custom car requires thought as to how you will proceed with the next part. Every mod effects 5 other parts.

If you drop off a body that is totally rust free you have to be looking at at least $10-$15k to deliver a rolling body back with no unfinished edges. There is $5k in rims and tires at that size. You are also easily looking at $75k into the car as you are now modifying every part that mounts onto that frame. Big difference in price from bolt on suspension and custom one off frame up build. Just trying to inform of real costs as you will be shocked how quick a build like that ads up.

You have the names of a couple shops go sit down and talk to them and make sure that is the route you and your wallet can handle. No disrespect meant as you might be able to afford 3 of them but would like to see you finish a project than sell it a 50% unfinished on EBAY.

Good Luck!!
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