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Old 11-17-2008, 06:48 PM
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not to crash this or anything cause i like GM but don't you think they should help there self before we bail them out? i think some people up top should take a pay cut cause there overpaid in my opinion and my .02
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:50 PM
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the back better say "death to UAW" or down with UAW or something
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:58 PM
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We just bought a new HD as well to help them out.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:04 PM
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bought a new Saturn for my son in 07, new Duramax for myself in 07, two new GMC work trucks in 08. Doesn't count 7 other new GM vehicles from 91-07.

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Old 11-17-2008, 07:38 PM
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GM has to save themselves with better quality plain and simple. Great mechanical but the designers are out to lunch. Love USA and try buying US stuff as much as possible but I am not going to buy junk to line someone elses pocket.

Wife wanted new SRX? SUV last year. Went to look at it and the paint was blotchy all down the side. Explained I wanted car that wasn't hit. They took me to the lot where there were about 5 more each with the same problem. The dealer told me it is just the way silver looks and we were crazy. A 5 year old could have picked it out. This isn't a $20k car. Same cheap plastic adds, cheasy knobs, and just a real $5 plastic look everywhere.

GM killed GM. The Vette is the only thing worth buying but even there they just can't keep the cheap mentality away. Ever compare the leather in Vette to a BMW or Porsche. Where does GM find cows that even have a cheap feel. Spend time in a German car and you will never go back.

Shame as the mechanicals have always been on top but as always wrapped in cheap nonsense. Side vents on a $60,000 Escalade look like they were just bought from Pep Boys on sale.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:06 PM
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Hate to say it but the union's need to reside to the fact that health benefits for life, raises every contract etc.... Need to be adjusted. I am a union member (not in the auto industry) and we can't touch the benefit packages they get.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:06 PM
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bought a new trailblazer ss and sold it, ive seen better fit and finish on kias.Bought a new escalade and it was marginally better . when i see my friends import suvs you can really tell who was worried about shipping all our jobs to mexico and who was concerned about their product.The only bad thing is this is a catch 22, i dont want to help the corporations at all because they literally do not give a damn about anyone of us.They never have, never will, we are just numbers to them. But if they fail it means their millionaire employees will remain rich and all the working class Gm employees will be out of jobs and SOL.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:48 PM
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I think GM could save it's self by bring some of the overseas models to the states. I'm over in the Middle East, for a couple of months and some of the Chevy's here would sell big time in the states. I love Chevy, but let's be honest their line-up is pretty borning if you can't afford a Vett or the new Camaro. Take a look at the Chevy's they sell in the United Arab Emirates. Sorry for the long post,just a long time bow-tie man giving his 2 cents.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:09 PM
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Loyalty is a 2 way street and GM has proven in the past that they have no problem tugging on our patriotism to make a quick buck. When they recover the same CEO's and upper management will then sell the American worker out the first chance they have to make a few extra bucks. After all how many of your GM vehicles already have made in Mexico engines in them now.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:25 PM
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GM needs to sell off there Saab devision and consitrate on the americna market, Saab has done nothing but bring the market down.Saab has to be the worst investment GM ever purchased. there reputation for part and service is worse then the UGO. The Hummer marlet is killing them as well. Although I love the Hummer the gas problem is slowing sales down. Toyota is heading in the number one direction and if they get there, there's nothing going to stop them. If they got rid of the union and had health benifits and 401K like most of the corps out there they could save billions.
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