...

Go Back   Lateral-g Forums > Technical Discussions > Paint and Body
User Name
Password



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-20-2009, 10:44 PM
70TWO NOVA's Avatar
70TWO NOVA 70TWO NOVA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 1,083
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

thanks, i get what you are saying, but it usually ends up being cheaper still than the "good stuff". i mean im in no way against other brands and qualities. I guess im just trying to say that the cheaper stuff can still produce as good results as the more expensive stuff.
What do you guys know about the life span/quality of the SW "Ultimate Overall Clear"
__________________
Brian Miller
-1972 Nova
-1968 Camaro
-1967 C-10 step side 4x4
-2000 Dodge Dakota

it'll buff out........
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-20-2009, 11:00 PM
racebuicks's Avatar
racebuicks racebuicks is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 109
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70TWO NOVA View Post
thanks, i get what you are saying, but it usually ends up being cheaper still than the "good stuff". i mean im in no way against other brands and qualities. I guess im just trying to say that the cheaper stuff can still produce as good results as the more expensive stuff.
What do you guys know about the life span/quality of the SW "Ultimate Overall Clear"

I may not know about your paint quality. BUT...Here is what I do know.... I painted my 70 GS in 1985 I used PPG (at the time the very best material) and to this day I have yet to have to repaint it because the paint is faded. Oh yea it has 245000 miles on it now over 160 since it was painted. I have repolished it about 7 years ago to get scratches out thats it. In 92 I painted my street car and if you park them side by side you cant tell the difference in the paint. Once again only polish required to keep the "like new " finish still on it. I will figure the math out so you dont have too 1985 $1000 worth of product then..............2009 today that makes my paint job 25 years old divided by $1000 I have about nothing in my paint job right now and it still looks great. Now think about this when your cheaper brand of paint is this old will it be show car ready still after a quick hand glaze???...........really only time will tell. I would never use cheaper stuff on a car that Im painting as I dont like the odds. Your car looks fine Im just making a point, you have to see how time and the elements treat your paint. Once you have a LARGE amount of time then you can brag about the cheap stuff. I have customers out there all over the country that I have painted for and ALL of them are still looking great. I hope it lasts for you ...really I do.
__________________
Michael Garrison
High Torque Racing
Topeka Kansas
GSCA#411
BPG #1022
I CHOOSE LIFE!!!!!!!!!!
1970 GS Stage1 (wifes car) 12.78@104 all by herself!!
1970 GS 455-BUZILLA 535 826HP
10.18@133 so far thru the muffs
http://mrbuick.com/CUSTOMERS.htm WORKING ON THE FINEST CARS EVER
Why does it seem everyone has no time to do something right but they have time to do it twice????
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-20-2009, 11:04 PM
racebuicks's Avatar
racebuicks racebuicks is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 109
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Here is a picture of the car taken in 05 that I painted in 85

I dont have any good shots at home they are on the work computer
Attached Images
 
__________________
Michael Garrison
High Torque Racing
Topeka Kansas
GSCA#411
BPG #1022
I CHOOSE LIFE!!!!!!!!!!
1970 GS Stage1 (wifes car) 12.78@104 all by herself!!
1970 GS 455-BUZILLA 535 826HP
10.18@133 so far thru the muffs
http://mrbuick.com/CUSTOMERS.htm WORKING ON THE FINEST CARS EVER
Why does it seem everyone has no time to do something right but they have time to do it twice????
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-20-2009, 11:07 PM
70TWO NOVA's Avatar
70TWO NOVA 70TWO NOVA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 1,083
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

thanks, i agree with you 100% that I have yet to see the long term durability. I guess all i can say for it right now is, so far so good.
__________________
Brian Miller
-1972 Nova
-1968 Camaro
-1967 C-10 step side 4x4
-2000 Dodge Dakota

it'll buff out........
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-20-2009, 11:09 PM
elitecustombody's Avatar
elitecustombody elitecustombody is offline
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 1,126
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70TWO NOVA View Post
thanks, i get what you are saying, but it usually ends up being cheaper still than the "good stuff". i mean im in no way against other brands and qualities. I guess im just trying to say that the cheaper stuff can still produce as good results as the more expensive stuff.
What do you guys know about the life span/quality of the SW "Ultimate Overall Clear"
I'm with you,I think I have tried just about every paintline there is or was avaliable from Sikkens,to ICI,to PPG,Glasurit,Diamont,DuPont,Martin Senior,Lessonal,Sherwin,Valspar,Pro-spray,SpiesHecker,Matrix, and some other ones,but if you try Matrix,you will want to forget about 4th dimension, try Matrix AG42 clear,you will not want to use anything else,

the main reason I went tru so many paintlines is to find the best match, and I can tell you, just stick with whatever system you use,some paint brands have better matches on domestics,some do better on imports, I have found that Sherwin Williams Ultra 7000 has awsome match on late model Hondas and Acuras,as I've painted and did alot of spot paint work on brand new Acuras,painted and installed spoilers on them , but for all over resprays Matrix is untouchable with ,coverage and ease to work with
__________________
Stefan B. Do what's right,not what's easy!

Elite Custom Body


1998 Supra APU 6spd
2007 TBSS
1998 GS400TT widebody
1969 Firebird
1979 Firebird LS3,DSE,Baer
1938 Dodge LC pickup
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-20-2009, 11:14 PM
70TWO NOVA's Avatar
70TWO NOVA 70TWO NOVA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 1,083
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

hows the cost on the matrix stuff? and who carries it?
__________________
Brian Miller
-1972 Nova
-1968 Camaro
-1967 C-10 step side 4x4
-2000 Dodge Dakota

it'll buff out........
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-20-2009, 11:30 PM
elitecustombody's Avatar
elitecustombody elitecustombody is offline
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 1,126
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

try to google your area body shop supply stores,and BTW, I've done a few Supras with Matrix back in 97 and till this day it looks like I just did it ,and it was the regular 4:1 mixing ratio clear, AG 40 is high-solids clearcoat with awsome UV protectants,I've manipulated and experimented with that clear so many times ,and I'm amazed ,you will forget what solvent pop is even if you hose on coat after coat after coat with no flash time, even if you mix in reducer,there is virtually no die-back and it's not hard to buff, use slow or very slow hardener and you will have glass-like finish,with the right gun anyone can lay it down with amazing results and best part,5 liter kit cost around $175
__________________
Stefan B. Do what's right,not what's easy!

Elite Custom Body


1998 Supra APU 6spd
2007 TBSS
1998 GS400TT widebody
1969 Firebird
1979 Firebird LS3,DSE,Baer
1938 Dodge LC pickup
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-20-2009, 11:36 PM
70TWO NOVA's Avatar
70TWO NOVA 70TWO NOVA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 1,083
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

thanks ill definatley have to try that. Im at the point where i want to start broadening my horizens anyway. Im 22 years old and have only been painting a little over 3 years, I think iam starting to get the hang of it and am contemplating making a career out of it. I really appreciate all the help.
__________________
Brian Miller
-1972 Nova
-1968 Camaro
-1967 C-10 step side 4x4
-2000 Dodge Dakota

it'll buff out........
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Lateral-g.net