Trakon's new C28 to be at SEMA.

[Kris Horton]

What's the deal with G/28? I hear you mentioning it from time to time. Did PHR steal the name or was it just a coincidence?

Kris

[Steve Chryssos]

Originally Posted by Kris Horton

Did PHR steal the name or was it just a coincidence?
Kris

They must have stolen it. The name is such a stroke of creative genius that no two minds could have possibly fathomed its brilliance.

Let's see: GEE rhymes with ZEE, so instead of Z/28: G/28?

See? There's no chance whatsoever for coincidence. Now what else rhymes with Z? Ummmm......... C? Yeah, C/28!

Wow! Shinoda would be blown away by the boundless creativity.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I will be very intersted in the finished project. There are so many issues and potential sacrifices that must be accepted to do the C5 install, I will be very curious to see how they deal issues. It looks like they raised the suspension in the front, to lower the body. Which means they would have to do the same thing in the rear. Which makes the torque tbe very high in the body making for a very tall hump. I wonder if they strteched the torque tube, or set the motor under the dash. It appears they are using the original Corvette front k member which requires the engine to sit behind the wheels, which put's the engine under the dash, which creates it's own issues and sacrifices. I spent a lot of time thinking about a C5 install, it was the original plan for Prodigy. I'll be curious to see how someone with their skills and engineering abilities deals with things.

If anyone gets anymore pictures I would love to see them. This is probably the car I am most interested in seeing at SEMA

[Mean 69]

I think what irks me the most (and this is in no way directed at you, Tyler), but it seems like all of the late-comers to the market feel like they need to use Corvette parts to make a superior car. It is actually a bit humorous, and in my not-so-humble-opinion, really shows the lack of creativity, or more importantly, the lack of engineering prowess by these folks. While it is true that the Corvette is a very well engineered piece, and one can't argue too much with the nice weight distribution, there are still lots of compromises to the setup. Think about it, it is "still" an American built car, and the last time I looked, with the possible exception of the new Ford GT, and the yet to be released Z06, the big three have never built a full on no-compromise car. Certainly not one in volume. To make things even worse, I have yet to see one of the 'vette derived setups done "right," though the 21st Century setup seems to be a lot closer than the others.

I suppose it is tough to argue with the marketing appeal of such a deal though, most folks assume that if there are Corvette parts on the car, well, it'll handle just like a Corvette. The only way that the performance questions will be answered is with a head to head competition, I'd guess that most of these folks would not stick their necks out in such a venue.

Tyler, you guys are on the right path, don't change a thing. There is always going to be someone that will rip off your ideas, not a whole lot you can do about that. I'd suggest that you build YOUR car, and enjoy it as such, as you guys can fit it in. It will be a real treasure when it is done, and it will still be the "first" of the breed.

Mark

[ProdigyCustoms]

Originally Posted by Mean 69

The only way that the performance questions will be answered is with a head to head competition, I'd guess that most of these folks would not stick their necks out in such a venue.

Mark

What would such a head to head competition entail? We could be interested in trying out luck. I think it would be cool to get some different designs together. And if we got our ass kicked, at least when the dust settled we would all know what works.

We are no rocket scientist on suspension. We just went with some simple logic. Make it very rigid so the suspension can work, get the center of gravity very low, put on a LOT of tire with proper front to rear stager with good aspect ratios, use light weight unsprung components and make the car light with good weight balance.

[DCreations]

I see tyler with his 50/50 doing that!!!!! He seems like the only guy being down for testing his car to the fullest. I hope he can get his car done next year

[Teetoe_Jones]

Thank you guys for the support and encouraging words. We are trying to do the no-comprimise effort on doing the C5 chassis with 50/50. We did all the items Frank thought about, like the 6-1/2" engine setback into the firewall, making the pedal assembly an interesting problem, the use of full fabricated perimeter frame that makes use of the F/R aluminum cradles so we wouldn't change the susension geometry at all, you know, stuff like that. Last few issues to resolve are to widen the rear 1/4 panels, and re-work the innder frame rails.
The way I see 50/50 emerging is- late to the party, but still years ahead in terms of build quality and creativity. We have to test my car out on the track, it was meant to drive the twisted roads of Laguna Seca, and tear up the Pony Express.
I hope to have some updates of us moving along with the car after SEMA.
Tyler

[Al Moreno]

I spoke with the builder "Harvey" at Trokan, seems like a really nice guy. He was kind enough to e-mail me the pics which I forwarded to Scott. If you look at the latest issue of Hotrod, There's a rendering of the finish project. I think the concept is that of taking allot of the styling cues from the new C6 and incorporating them to the project, C6 door handles, front fascia, the concave side section witch is what your seeing on the bottom half of the doors, etc.
Frank, the car wont be completed for this year SEMA. Harvey will bring some other cool projects. I think Prodigy is going to be one of the cars to look for this year!
Tyler if you car gets complete by next year, you might still be the first to complete a C5 Camaro. Either way, it's still an awesome car!
One last thing, This is one of the friendliest environments that I have found on the internet. For that I congratulate you guys. I invited Harvey to join this site and bring some of his expertise to the mix.
I hope this last comment is taken in the light that it is meant. Not for anybody to take offense but, as a suggestion. Ask yourself if you were him and read some of the comment posted, would you want to join? I think that one of Scott objectives is to grow this site. It makes it tougher when..... Remember that no status was ever erected for a critic, "Here, children is a guy who found something wrong with everything". People have different themes and goals with there projects. Not for us to.....

[ProdigyCustoms]

The Hot Rod feature said it was being built to be there. Well it is disappointing it will not be there.