Orange Peel

[GM Muscle]

ill say it again.. you have a lot to learn...

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by GM Muscle

ill say it again.. you have a lot to learn...

So GM -- if I get what you're saying - there is one level of sanding which would be getting rid of the orange peel (so an "okay" job) -- and there is a better way -- which is really cutting the clear which would be almost or very close to the same thing as actually blocking the car out? Is that what you're saying? Cause I like your way... which would add flatness to the car yet again?

I have some friends that own a muscle car retail store - they "color sand" almost all the cars - or give them a quicky clear and color sand and buff them - which makes them "shine" and the paint looks "good" - but you can still see all the 'just okay' body panels etc...

You're talking high dollar really GREAT paint jobs?? Where the cars are arrow straight to start with (after body work and blocking)... and now you're taking the paint to that level as well?

[awr68]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

So GM -- if I get what you're saying - there is one level of sanding which would be getting rid of the orange peel (so an "okay" job) -- and there is a better way -- which is really cutting the clear which would be almost or very close to the same thing as actually blocking the car out? Is that what you're saying? Cause I like your way... which would add flatness to the car yet again?

I have some friends that own a muscle car retail store - they "color sand" almost all the cars - or give them a quicky clear and color sand and buff them - which makes them "shine" and the paint looks "good" - but you can still see all the 'just okay' body panels etc...

You're talking high dollar really GREAT paint jobs?? Where the cars are arrow straight to start with (after body work and blocking)... and now you're taking the paint to that level as well?

Greg, I think you are understanding him completely.

[TreySmith]

Originally Posted by GM Muscle

ill say it again.. you have a lot to learn...

[awr68]

Originally Posted by GM Muscle

ill say it again.. you have a lot to learn...

Trey, I don't take that as a put down, but a reminder. You are young and very green. Take your time and use this forum as a learning tool, there are many builders here with much experiance and are more than willing to help people and answer questions. These guys have been doing this for years and know what they are talking about....respect that and you will be amazed how much you can learn and the friends you can make along the way.

[TreySmith]

I understand what you guys are saying completely, I was just trying to save him a few steps and some cash. I don't think I have ever seen a car done up to your guys standards so I wouldn't even know what it would look like with absolutely no peel or blemishes. I better not see even the hint of a damn wave in the paint when I go to the higher end car show next Saturday

You guys are great, I learned something from this. I didn't even know you could do half that crap while painting. I knew you could wet sand the paint in between coats but not near to that extent.

Also here is a pic I took of my friends car. Looks amazing, I didn't see one flaw in that paint except for a little orange peel and some spider cracks in the rear bumper which is natural for these cars. Total cost, $950 They didn't wet sand it either so it looked great compared to some of the cars coming through lately. I guess the weather affects the paint alot.

[GregWeld]

Great reply Trey!

There is so much to learn from so many people on this site it's just amazing. Hang out and keep contributing!

I read everything on here I can find -- sometimes I can offer a little teeny bit of help - and sometimes my eyes get opened wide and my brain explodes!

[NOT A TA]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Great reply Trey!

There is so much to learn from so many people on this site it's just amazing. Hang out and keep contributing!

I read everything on here I can find -- sometimes I can offer a little teeny bit of help - and sometimes my eyes get opened wide and my brain explodes!

X2! The internet wasn't invented when many of us were young and learning. Just imagine where the hobby will be when the guys like Trey are middle aged!

Writing that just made me realize how much time and money we might have been able to save if we'd had the information available to us to do things right the 1st time! Just the simple common sense tips you can pick up here are priceless!

[Ron Fox]

I know even before paint is applied to a car many hours of body work must be completed before a near perfect paint job is accomplished. I understand the slicker the paint the more time and of course more money is needed.

The thought of rebuilding a car from the ground up with every part on the car new or redone, and to have a detailed car but to have a so-so paint job seems like a waste.

When I first look at a car I see the wheels, tires, and stance. (These 3 make a huge impression about the attitude of the car) The next area I see is the paint job. Most are clean but some stand out like a sore thumb.

I am not painting my car. My builder is completing all the work except for the engine work (Butler Performance will handle the engine work) and maybe a few other details.

I know my builder/painter knows what he is doing but I like to get opinions from others and talking to everyone in here opens my eyes and lets me know there different ways to complete a certain job.

I am not wealthy so my car is being built in stages (when money is availably) and I am not the only car in the shop. So for a little more money I think I will try and shoot for that near perfect orange peel free paint job. (and hopefully there will be no insects in the booth when the paint is sprayed).

Everyone's thoughts?

Thanks and please keep the idea's and info coming.

Ron
1969 Firebird, 4-speed, Coupe

[Ron Fox]

By the way how do I put the quotes of ours into my post? Sorry I am new at all this and have been a member for a short time.

Thanks.