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Old 09-04-2009, 07:10 AM
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David was down here so long I was going to help him start shopping for a house.. lol

People don't realize how much is involved in shaking down a complicated build when it's done. I know David fixed a TON of stuff that should make the OLC a truly great car. Hell, the work he did fabricating the center link for extra clearance was a work of art. A lot of work tracking down that electrical gremlin too (note: annodizing doesn't conduct).

Anyways, it was great to see the car again. I hope you don't mind that I borrowed your rear spoiler..
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:16 AM
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I think the funniest story was when they first plugged into the car's computer and found out the previous company had ZERO/NADA/NO programing data in the computer for below 1,500 RPM.. lol

No wonder it idled and ran like crud..

Anyways, I told Dave he should start a business helping guys sort out thier "done" cars. He's very maticulous and is one of the best problem solvers I've ran across.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:27 AM
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Yeah... the ECM was a really trying and unexpectedly difficult part of this adventure. After our experiences at the NORC in May I spoke to Katech about the tune and eventually got the answer that their dyno tuning and calibration was limited to the power curve as idle and intermediate tuning can vary depending on the application. Fair enough. The problem that we encountered after that was finding someone who understood and was willing to tune the MSD MEFI4B stuff; there just were not that many people who were knowledgable and willing - enter Turn Key Engines and their tunig wiz Kory.

Once we were on the dyno we found that we really had two major 'system related' issues with ECM that was hindering any tuning - one was low voltage (especially under load) and the other was an erratic TPS signal that was hampering the idle calibration. The low voltage issue was blamed for the engine shut down on our mile passes at the NORC in May and was resolved by upsizing the alternator power wire, adding a ground on the alternator, and adding a relay for the ECM power circuit (seems simple now). The erratic TPS signal was eventually tracked down to 'noise' from the wideband O2 sensors - we'll need to do some rewiring before we can run closed loop but nothing major. When I talked to MSD after the fact about the O2 issue their response was "yeah, maybe we should put that on the FAQ - I run into that problem alot" - thanks...

Going in to this year I knew that there were going to be teething pains - that's why I chose to run the One Lap of America next year and not this year. Sometimes it's difficult to chase down the last little bit here and there - especially when you are finally "done" after a long build - but it has to be done. I'm just glad that David, Mary, and everybody else has been so helpful in the process!
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:07 AM
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Anyways, I told Dave he should start a business helping guys sort out thier "done" cars. He's very maticulous and is one of the best problem solvers I've ran across.
Agreed.

The need is there...
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:17 AM
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James/David. Many members are going a similiar path with thier front suspension. Stock sub ect. Can you give an overview of the changes you had to make?
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:32 AM
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James/David. Many members are going a similiar path with thier front suspension. Stock sub ect. Can you give an overview of the changes you had to make?
Not trying to be evasive on this one (not my intention at all) but we need to do some more testing and be 100% sure that we've gone the right way before we say too much about it. I would hate for someone to follow in my footsteps only to found out that I was wondering down the wrong path. I will say that I am probably the only first gen running second gen inner tie rod ends... but now I've siad too much...
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Very cool.
A lot of good people on this site. That's what Lateral-g is all about. Cars/good people helping out others with the same interest.
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Old 09-04-2009, 08:16 AM
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Very cool.
A lot of good people on this site. That's what Lateral-g is all about. Cars/good people helping out others with the same interest.
Tones -- You couldn't have said it any better.
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Good stuff to all involved.
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Glad to hear your getting it sorted. I loved watching the build and the way the car came out. Cant wait to see the future progress.
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