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Old 12-06-2009, 03:05 PM
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I love how your projects snowball. You are getting a new radiator and support, engine, fixing up the rear end, and modding the inner fenders all because you originally wanted to redo the undercoating, right?

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It's that "While I'm here I might as well..."

The two main projects were the undercoating and the inner wheelhouses. The rest snowballed off of that. Hey, you should know all about the "snowball effect".. right?

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Steve,
Your plan looks good!
I think the improved rear shock travel really brought Penny into a new era of even better handling. Keep track of the present rear bar setting. I think it was in the 3rd hole? This setting is VERY well balanced on the road course. Should work great for normal autocrossing but we may have to stiffen 1 hole for the Goodguys type events that are so tight. Hopefully we won't need to.

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We took pics of all the settings and measurements of all the links and shocks. This will make reassembly a snap.

We might look into increasing the front shock extension like you suggested. Also, did you ever call John at AFCO?

And the extra power is all for you! lol

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What are you putting under there?, Something easier to keep clean, pretty and show quality? Can't imagine you'd even have many scuffs or rock chips underneath yet?

Love the changes. I really wish you weren't adding that extra horse power...
I don't know if it's "pretty" but it will be easier to clean. It's the WURTH stuff I used on the Fairlane and Track Rat. It's just black bumpy undercoat but it dries hard and you can wash it. The current Fusor stuff can't be washed and it's too soft and easily scuffs off.

The re-powdering is because David made a few changes to the rear and some areas have been cut and welded. The lower links have been chipped up from the rack arms hitting them. It just looks "un-tidy". I need to pull the stuff for the undercoat so might as well freshen it up.

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Ha Steve, you have a sickness. Will it ever stop, most likely not.
Well all thats left now is for body mods. Oh crap thats what track rat is for.
Great decision on the motor. I thought a while back ago you were leaning towards the LS7 what changed your mind.
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What are you going to do with old engine? Going to sell it?
"done" just isn't "fun".. lol

Yea, no mods for Penny.. I like the understated looks and OEM trim work. Several things changed my mind on the engine. I need more power for the road course and since it's not adding any weight it won't hurt on the autocross.

I will most likely sell the LS2 to help pay for the new stroker/sleeved LS3. That way I won't have to eat dog food to afford this.
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:47 PM
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How much if I should ask?
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It's that "While I'm here I might as well..."

The two main projects were the undercoating and the inner wheelhouses. The rest snowballed off of that. Hey, you should know all about the "snowball effect".. right?
Hey, there is a difference between what we do.

Our car isn't even at version 1.0 yet. On the other hand, there seems to be a new version of Penny out more often than there is a new version of Itunes. You make me look like an amateur, at least right now (I think). It is entirely possible that I worse than you. I might even be passed the snowball phase. I now work very hard on snowball containment. My mantra is more of "while I'm here, I might as well... Stop!" I'm just horrible at it though. Have you gotten to that point yet?

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Old 12-07-2009, 07:45 PM
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Steve, I am excited to see this build.
I have a LS7 with Darton sleeves. I am sure you will have yours running before me tho. It makes me feel good to see someone else doing this as well.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:51 PM
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Steve, I am excited to see this build.
I have a LS7 with Darton sleeves. I am sure you will have yours running before me tho. It makes me feel good to see someone else doing this as well.
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Did you sleeve an LS7 block? I will be doing this to an LS3 block since it's stronger and less expensive.

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Did you sleeve an LS7 block? I will be doing this to an LS3 block since it's stronger and less expensive.

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Yeah I bought the short block with them in it, Steve From Race Engine Development performed the machine work.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-p...s2-engine.html
Steve, I also thought you might want to check this out.
I saw this over on corvetteforum.com
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:16 AM
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The best part about Steve's penny...is that we get to see the project change and evolve..new..exciting parts,and real track testing to back what the products do or say they will do.

So many cars get built...sold..and another comes along..I like the fact that Steve is changing his car,and exploring these new parts and idea's that make the project fun and fresh..for all of us to see at first hand.

Not that we all are not changing our cars too..just nice to see a top car go through its changes..with new parts, trial and new upgrades along the way.
And with Mr Pozzi doing his magic tuning, how can anybody go wrong!

As always Steve..great work!




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Old 12-15-2009, 06:33 PM
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Nice project you've got going on here.

Is there a specific reason you went with billet uprights? You could save quite a bit of weight and end up with a stronger part by going with a sheet metal weldment.
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:15 AM
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Steve,

ton of questions here.
some of these are very exotic changes (zr-1 hubs) how do you know what to change, or is it just trial and error?
for instance in braking did you have data on your 60 to zero stops with the original set-up and tires? i.e what makes a bigger difference new calipers or switching to the michelins? (i.e. can the tires hold the brake torque)
Seems like your are trying to shed unsprung weight with the brake swap, and while lap times are obviously the goal, any sacrifice in streetability?

ever watch h2h on torque tv? They have had some great new vs. old comparisons at willow springs with a pro driver. Love to see penny vs. a new camaro or hpe camaro. Have you run penny there and if so, lap time?
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