My car is sitting tilted and I cant find out why!!!!

[DRJDVM's '69]

I've had the same suspension for the last 7 years and it has been perfect....until I hit that wheel on the freeway.

[69Camaro]

Random thought ... Is it possible that the force of the impact transfered through the subframe and damaged or twisted/bent a subframe to body mount?

[Vegas69]

Your steering box getting closer points to a tweaked frame. How else could it get closer to the headers after the collision? The impact would've created a twisting force on the upper and lower control arm. Check to see if your spring pockets are in the same position. You could also swap springs side to side. What changed with your alignment?

[David Pozzi]

Maybe the subframe moved, but can't see it changing height.

[dhutton]

Are all your subframe bushings intact and compressed the same amount? Strange things can happen when they get out of whack.

Don

[Vegas69]

Good point Dave, there is enough slop in the motor mounts to allow the subrame to twist.

[jy211]

maybe try a rubber spring spacer on the dr side and see if that sets your car back even. If it does, maybe a front spring is sagging. Have you checked to see if the spring could have shifted?

[GregWeld]

Springs settling - you drive it alone most of the time - you're a pretty good sized guy - so I'm betting you just hadn't noticed the settling over time... and the spring/springs on the driver side should be compared to the passenger side.

Pull both front springs out and my bet is the ds is 1/2 shorter than the ps.

I just happened to rebuild all the front suspension on the Nomad last week - since the engine is out and all the front sheetmetal is off... decided to double and triple check my spring weight and height etc. Went down to Art Morrisons shop and ended up replacing my 9" 450# QA1 spring and coilover with STRANGE 9" 550# and their coilover.... My 9" QA1 measured 8 3/4" free length - and the Strange was a perfect 9"

[DRJDVM's '69]

The rag joint was VERY close before..but after it would scrape the header. So we're talking less that 1/4 inch movement tops.

My body mounts are all solid Global West units. They all look the same and the floor around them looks and feels okay.

Yes I weigh in at around 220lbs, but I just cant buy that the car has settled so much as to make the rear sit an inch lower on one side. I'm not that fat Greg !!! Its quite easily visually noticeable in the back...an inch difference is pretty big. I think I would have noticed.

The subframe alignment holes are still lined up. My car also has welded in subframe connectors, that attach to a 6 point cage. I would think that a control arm would give before the frame twisted....

So this AM, I jack up that back of the car, and put jackstands under the rear axle tubes, so the car is resting on the rear suspension...... the front in still on jackstands right at the body mounts by the firewall, front suspension hanging.

Everything matches side to side within 1/4 inch......

My next plan is to place the jackstands near the front frame mounts and let the front suspension hang and see what happens. Measure every point on the frame and car I can think of and then drop the car on all 4 again. If that doesnt work, I'll pull the springs....not a hard job, but just kinda a PITA.

[GregWeld]

That and check your TIRE PRESSURE -- they all the same??

Trust me - it's the springs - they're the only thing holding up the car.