Street Car Event attendance - Page 2 - Lateral-g Forums

WILWAXU · #11 04-17-2010, 08:53 AM

I think these events are great and will get more attendance as they get more exposure. Hopefully the great camaraderie of RTTC can continue throughout any future events. It was truly a great time!

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Originally Posted by rogue

You'll find a small percentage of people in the community that are actually willing to track their car on a regular basis but that number is growing. Bottom line is, a lot of people feel their cars aren't ready, are too nice, or are too scared to ball em up. I've invited every lat-g and pro-touring member to every event I've gone to for 2 years. Not a single person has ever shown.

I'm glad run to the coast and all these events are happening is, but bottom line is, they are tied to car show events, hence attendance.

Hmm.. I don't remember seeing a gold '69 at RTTC?

If you were at the event, you would have seen a lot of show quality cars getting beat on, met a lot of good people and possibly had a little fun. You may have also noticed that there wasn't a static car show during the event

Strong words from a guy that didn't show up for an event that happened in his own back yard.

Vegas69 · #12 04-17-2010, 09:34 AM

Hey John, Dane has health issues that kept him from coming.

**camcojb** · #13 04-17-2010, 10:21 AM

well, there's obviously a ton of these cars attending the events, evidenced by all the pics of them on this site and others like Pro Touring. I think this should be encouraged, but I also feel that the decision to beat on the car is up to the owners. They're the ones who've made the investment in these cars. I don't think they should be bashed if they choose not to participate.

There are also things like making a living and life in general that keep people away from these events. It takes a lot of planning to attend some of these larger events.

Jody

mpozziCPL · #14 04-17-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69

Hey John, Dane has health issues that kept him from coming.

Second that and he had entered but last minute surgery cancelled those plans.

Mary Pozzi

**GregWeld** · #15 04-17-2010, 01:12 PM

Jody --

One of my favorite sayings is "Life is what happens to you - while you're busy making other plans"...

Can't tell you how many "shows" or car things I've had plans to do - and then something else takes precedence...

**fleetus macmullitz** · #16 04-17-2010, 01:28 PM

Jimi, I think more and more owners are entertaining participating in these events. I think vids and pics from those events posted here creates that desire. IMO more and more folks are joining the g-machine ranks. I also believe many who once just thought of it as a cool build style realize now it could be a lot of fun tracking their ride at some level.

**GregWeld** · #17 04-17-2010, 01:47 PM

While I didn't attend the Friday event at RTTC -- I heard REPEATEDLY that the driving "school" was an absolute blast...

It seemed very affordable... and I think that is a great addition to any of these events.

Like Todd (Vegas) said after the event -- he put 125 miles on his beautiful car that weekend -- where else can you drive as fast as you are capable - for 125 miles - smoking tires (in his case - doing wheelies - LOL) and NOT GET A TICKET? Anyone that has a decent car - should WANT TO attend this kind of event.

James OLC · #18 04-17-2010, 03:05 PM

My two bits...

In an ideal world, these would be two day events. RTTC was a blast but (and it's not really a relevant but) it was like running a marathon. Any track day event is - and there is nothing wrong with that, it's the nature of the beast - but RTTH and some of the other similar events are as much social gatherings as they are competitions. I know it adds expenses and requires increased sponsor support but it's a viscious circle - more "free time" would give participants more time to interact with sponsors (and visa versa) which would make it more appealing to sponsors, albiet costlier. If events could be spread over a couple of days I think that you would see more people attend - albeit not necessarily compete. Which leads me to...

In an ideal world, there would be two categories for these events (in addition to a sponsor/vendor category) - competition and fun runs. I think that there would be a greater appeal to many "casual" guys and girls if there was a way that they could participate - try their hand on the track or autocross - without having the "competition" element staring them in the face. I think that this is one of reasons that the autocross events at car shows have become increasingly popular - while there is an element who attend the shows to race, there is another element that is at the show, sees that they can try the autocross and give it a shot - without every worrying about points, times, or prizes. I know that this doesn't work on a one day event (as mentioned above, it's a struggle to squeeze everything in one day) but I think that if casual drivers could participate casually and watch the actual competition that more people would be inclined to try it - even on a spur of the moment. Which leads to my final point...

There are a finite number of people who will attend these events with the hope of being competitive and as more of these events come in to being, that finitie community will be forced to prioritize which events they attend. When there was only one event people would travel to go. When that grew to two events it was still an "easy" decision for many. If there are five or seven or ten "stand alone" events most of us will have to decide where and when we can travel. And that means that there will probably be less "hard core" participants at each event. Which means that we (ok - you) need to increase the appeal to the casual participant. Which is why sponsors step up for these events anyways. How can you make these more... interesting... intriging... entertaining... for the guys who aren't ready (mentally, mechanically, or financially) to compete?

That being said, hat's off to anyone who does participate in these events. It takes stones to race your car in any environment - autocross, road course, drag strip, or speed stop challenge. The fact that there were 50+ such people at RTTC was really impressive. But I think that you have to respect the people who might want to try it but not go 9/10 or 10/10. They might try it and decide they want more (that's how these things grow) or they might decided that they would prefer to cruise and try the open track on their own terms.

James OLC · #19 04-17-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

While I didn't attend the Friday event at RTTC -- I heard REPEATEDLY that the driving "school" was an absolute blast...

It seemed very affordable... and I think that is a great addition to any of these events.

Like Todd (Vegas) said after the event -- he put 125 miles on his beautiful car that weekend -- where else can you drive as fast as you are capable - for 125 miles - smoking tires (in his case - doing wheelies - LOL) and NOT GET A TICKET? Anyone that has a decent car - should WANT TO attend this kind of event.

I think that the driving school on Friday was a great idea but (and this is a valid but IMHO) it gave the select few an unfair advantage. 100% - without question - every person who was invited to attend (or the lucky three that could enter after the fact) came in on Saturday with a huge leg up over the other entrants. I think that if driving schools such as this are an option that either (a) they should be available to everybody who is going to attend or (b) they should be run on a different track configuration - even if it's backwards.

rogue · #20 04-17-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by XcYZ

There you go putting words in other people's mouths again. Slow learner?

It takes a big committment to attend an event that's a day's drive each way. Personally, I have a job with major responsibilties with a required on-call schedule covering 24/7/365 that I share with 2 other guys. Getting significant time off (measured in days) takes planning months, if not a year, in advance. I have 2 kids. They have plenty of activities and sports that they are involved with outside of school. (I won't even get into all my web development work that I do at night)

When you have responsibilty, you can't just up and leave for 2 or 3 days without major planning. I also have to balance my available time off with family activities.

I KNOW there are countless members on this site that are in the same boat - trying to balance all the activities in their lives. Since I have to explain this to you, obviously you don't understand responsibilty. You just sit behind your keyboard and belittle members from your narrow view of the world.

Do I want to attend all these events? Hell yeah, of course I do. I promote them as much as I can. That's why I built, maintain, and host the Optima Invitational site. I want it, and all the other events, to succeed. I think it's fantastic that HPDE events are popping up all over the country.

So please think before you start running your mouth.

Words in people's mouths? I invite people all the time. They don't show. On Weekends. I understand people have families and responsibilities. All of my friends that run in the competition groups have kids, jobs, etc, and they manage to deal with all that PLUS all the car prep and maintenance between race events.

Fact still remains, attendance remains low amongst this community. I too agree that its great that RTTC and events are popping up, and I even said so in my post.

I have no beef with anyone on any of these sites and have tried time and time again to meet people at track events. if you take my posts as belittling or offense I'm sorry. I invite, no one shows. 3-5 threads the past years. I put my effort trying to get people together as well.

No idea why I'm being attacked for stating the facts.