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Old 03-25-2011, 05:45 AM
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Is Hot Rod Black a primer or paint?
Ron, it's catalized single stage urethane enamel.Just about every paint brand has their own version.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:51 AM
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we use standard base coat black , then we clear it with standard clear coat . then we re-clear it with standox matt clear . the reason we never use hotrod black it it stains and streaks up when you wash it and grease will stain it .

ps , and the standox matt clear , you can change the " sheen " by adjusting the hardner 3to1 vs 4to1

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Ron, it's catalized single stage urethane enamel.Just about every paint brand has their own version.
Is the Hot Rod Black considered a flat black?

I have seen some nice engine bays in here in flat black but wondering if it was something other than flat black.
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Is the Hot Rod Black considered a flat black?

I have seen some nice engine bays in here in flat black but wondering if it was something other than flat black.
It's more of a satin finish, like the 69 pics posted above
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Thanks guys,

The goal is more of a satin black similar to the Camaro on the first post. I am trying to find a good balance that will work on the exterior as well. The main concerns are chalking and grease stains (i.e. hand prints).

I used Kustom shop's hot rod black on a few rigs and on the buggy and they worked welll, but it was not an impressive paint, just cheap paint that I would re-shoot after rockcrawling and beating on the body. Easy rattle can or gun fix after a wash





I like the idea of a matte finish over the smooth black. Alternatively can you shoot clear smooth over black and what woudl be the outcome (glossy)?
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the sherman williams polane will not chalk or leave prints. has about the same sheen as edp
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The SEM Hot Rod Black has been the best to use in my experience. Lays out pretty easy and has a nice satin finish. Test it out on some scrap metal to see how many coats you want to go with. There is a pretty big difference between 2 and 3 coats concerning satin finish. 3 coats give it more of a satin sheen.

It's a pretty good product.

A friend attempted the Hot Rod Flatz and it was really tough to spray because it was very thin and ran pretty easily. Just my experience, though.

Good luck with whatever your choice! Great color choice.
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New from SPI

Epoxy with uv protection.

As some of you know from the other threads, I have been playing with the UV protection with our epoxy, even though our epoxy (black) has showed us around 5 years life when exposed to the sun where most epoxies die inside of 3 - 6 months, we are making it better!

The black and black only at this point that we made this week has extra UV protection, we still have around 100 gallons of the old batch but that should be gone by middle of next week and we will ship the new. (Quarts will not have for about two months)

I used 1/2 the amount of UV I wanted to but as we go along I will increase, at this point it should last as long as any mid grade SS paint.

You will notice no difference in spraying or drying or handling the epoxy with this addition as I have tested and retested but reason I cut it in half is just to make sure the epoxy is still bullet proof.

I have no plans to add it to the other colors as they are never exposed as an topside paint but our black epoxy has been used as hood strips on cudas and rat rods so the protection was warranted.

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You've got plenty of options with semi-gloss black. PPG has their fixed-n-flat 2060 clear that's pre mixed if you wnat to go with base/clear, Finch used it on his Camaro as well as the 'Vette convertible that he floggs.... and every manufacturer has a version of semi-gloss. SUMMIT Racing has their hot rod black and i've used it a bunch. It's single stage urethane and has a great and EVEN (which is the hard part on large surfaces) sheen to it and lays down flat. Like any painting project, the secret to success is prep and air supply mixed with solid technique.

Definitly go with a catalyzed system, however you go. rattle cans and primer wont hold up.

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How difficult is it to keep satin black clean?
Is it worse than a gloss black car?
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