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Old 03-26-2011, 11:45 PM
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Woooooooooooooooooo! Woooooooooooooo!

Help me Tom Cruise.

Still got that Bud Light sitting in my fridge homie---don't worry, it will be there when you come back for the next RTTC---lol

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I will need it to help my friend put out the invisible fire!
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I will need it to help my friend put out the invisible fire!
LOL---

Sorry for the highjack Dr. Gordon--I'll send you some left over Tri Tip. I was looking on my parts wall this evening gazing at the Pep Boys chrome coil on the wall and found another Bud Light bottle cap behind one of the model cars on the shelf. I wonder how it got there----hmmmmmm.


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Oh man, more RTTC flashback chatter.... love it.

Still working on setting up a track day in the coming months... possible candidates so far are Fernley, NV and Buttonwillow... Rich wants to do Laguna Seca (as would I), but everyone I know who has a lot of experience at that track tells me about the hardcore enforcement of the ridiculously low 92db sound limit. Talk about a buzzkill. And as some do, I don't feel like going intentionally slow near the sound meters, or as yet others do, making a custom exhaust just to point away from the meter. No thanks.

Doug -- yes please send some of your badass tri tip!!!
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Oh man, more RTTC flashback chatter.... love it.

Still working on setting up a track day in the coming months... possible candidates so far are Fernley, NV and Buttonwillow... Rich wants to do Laguna Seca (as would I), but everyone I know who has a lot of experience at that track tells me about the hardcore enforcement of the ridiculously low 92db sound limit. Talk about a buzzkill. And as some do, I don't feel like going intentionally slow near the sound meters, or as yet others do, making a custom exhaust just to point away from the meter. No thanks.

Doug -- yes please send some of your badass tri tip!!!
Come down for Del Mar next weekend! You can save Doug the UPS charge...
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Pozzi said he had some type of sound measuring device we could try. We will do Laguna Seca!
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Pozzi said he had some type of sound measuring device we could try. We will do Laguna Seca!
If you take a look at the bike on the far right in this picture in front of the rear tire and below the swingarm you can see the exhaust tip that FMF made for the KTM RC8's that the Skip Barber School uses to defeat the sound check. The stock exhuast is undermounted with a right side rear exit. The tip was essentially a "J" shape to exit left.
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...81_ymDpG-O.jpg
The new models we were testing did have the mod and they asked us to feather the throttle past the station coming out the fast uphill T-5............gotcha. Only the a few timid riders followed that rule.

Running the track once is worth the hassle. Be prepared for the G-out in turn 6! Check header and oil pan clearance and possibly add bump stops to the suspension for it. I'm guessing base on the bikes that a car plants pretty hard there, maybe someone with Camaro experience there can verify?
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Come down for Del Mar next weekend! You can save Doug the UPS charge...
Would love to Ron... maybe next year.

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Pozzi said he had some type of sound measuring device we could try. We will do Laguna Seca!
I have a sound measuring device too. It's called my ear. Trust me, I know quieter cars that have been black flagged there. Even the Porsche guys I know make custom exhausts to shoot away from the sound meter. I
can barely hear Porsches at WOT.

Someday man... we'll get there.

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If you take a look at the bike on the far right in this picture in front of the rear tire and below the swingarm you can see the exhaust tip that FMF made for the KTM RC8's that the Skip Barber School uses to defeat the sound check. The stock exhuast is undermounted with a right side rear exit. The tip was essentially a "J" shape to exit left.
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...81_ymDpG-O.jpg
The new models we were testing did have the mod and they asked us to feather the throttle past the station coming out the fast uphill T-5............gotcha. Only the a few timid riders followed that rule.

Running the track once is worth the hassle. Be prepared for the G-out in turn 6! Check header and oil pan clearance and possibly add bump stops to the suspension for it. I'm guessing base on the bikes that a car plants pretty hard there, maybe someone with Camaro experience there can verify?
Yep, it's such a common trick to aim the exhaust/sound.

Your other warnings are making me a little nervous tho now...
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Your other warnings are making me a little nervous tho now...
No need to be nervous if you do your homework and you're prepared.

Not that I've ever holed an oil pan before.
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No need to be nervous if you do your homework and you're prepared.

Not that I've ever holed an oil pan before.
I'll get there but I'm still very new on the track... I'd like to get more seat time at other places before Laguna to be honest.

I think I need to get a dipstick for my oil pan first.
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I'll get there but I'm still very new on the track... I'd like to get more seat time at other places before Laguna to be honest.

I think I need to get a dipstick for my oil pan first.
Laguna isn't bad for a beginner. Just don't go out and try and set the lap record first sesson. It's not a high-speed circuit, more technical. You just need to establish your reference points for approach, turn in, and braking. Turn 1, 6, 7, and 8 (the corkscrew) are blind so references are on the horizon or the track surface. I think the max speed I saw cresting T-1 on the KTM RC8R was 145, the MotoGP guys see about 165 which is hard to comprehend. I'd guess you might see 130-135 with your car, the key is scrubbing speed on the downhill approach to the dual apex Andretti hairpin (T-2). It's a great track!

I haven't ran any car track days, I'll assume they're similar to bikes and run three 20 minute sessions on the hour for advanced, intermediate, and beginner skill levels?
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