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**fleetus macmullitz** · #**1111** 06-28-2011, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

You got it buddy --- straight to "the shed"!

Everything has been fine this weekend... after I got the lights working. But the engine will need a complete do over. No biggie -- it just might have to get a wee bit more 'umpf'.... EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA

Would a handy dandy 'shed 427 work?

**GregWeld** · #**1112** 06-28-2011, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DOOM

Greg it has to be valve seals or intake.. Dumb question, do you have any type of PCV system?

Yes Mario -- it has a PCV... and it's baffled. I've seen this scenario before and it acts exactly like a intake sealing issue. When these butterflies close - they're really closed - they have very tight tolerances so there's just no air coming in via the air valves -- thus leading me to think then that the vacuum created is pulling oily air in from the valley. There is no smoke on acceleration or at any other time.

I agree - if it's not the intake seal - that valve seals would be the next thing I'll look at. I have really high oil pressure - cruising on the freeway at 1800 rpms it's 75#'s -- so there's plenty of oil "up top". And running until the valve train was so dry that it clattered like a diesel could certainly have wiped them out.

**GregWeld** · #**1113** 06-28-2011, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis

Would a handy dandy 'shed 427 work?

Not a 427 -- I don't like that combo.... been there done that. Just not enough piston for a street driven motor. But a nice 406 would give it a bit more 'arm'... not that it needs it. The 383 in there now makes 455 #'s of TQ at 4000 rpms and I'm guessing the car only weighs 2200/2300 #'s. 4:30 rear gears - TKO 5 speed.... it's pretty "responsive". I just like the way the 408 in the Nomad runs... with the "honda" rod journal size crank and lightweight reciprocating bottom end -- that motor is super snappy/happy...

Funny -- you never get to really hear - or feel - or experience YOUR car except in the drivers seat. Since I have Rudy's (my BIL) Camaro torn apart... I loaned them my Nomad (don't want him to have show withdrawal). And I'm now in the crowd etc or around when he fires it off and cruises away. That motor is bad azz... it rattles windows... sounds like a big block... yet is smooth (not lumpy cammed). You can be a block away and when it fires off - I know it's my car. The ground rumbles.

**fleetus macmullitz** · #**1114** 06-28-2011, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

Not a 427 -- I don't like that combo.... been there done that. Just not enough piston for a street driven motor. But a nice 406 would give it a bit more 'arm'... not that it needs it. The 383 in there now makes 455 #'s of TQ at 4000 rpms and I'm guessing the car only weighs 2200/2300 #'s. 4:30 rear gears - TKO 5 speed.... it's pretty "responsive". I just like the way the 408 in the Nomad runs... with the "honda" rod journal size crank and lightweight reciprocating bottom end -- that motor is super snappy/happy...

Funny -- you never get to really hear - or feel - or experience YOUR car except in the drivers seat. Since I have Rudy's (my BIL) Camaro torn apart... I loaned them my Nomad (don't want him to have show withdrawal). And I'm now in the crowd etc or around when he fires it off and cruises away. That motor is bad azz... it rattles windows... sounds like a big block... yet is smooth (not lumpy cammed). You can be a block away and when it fires off - I know it's my car. The ground rumbles.

I remembered you took it out of the '56 but I thought it might work better for you in the much lighter car and give you that 'Gitts' (cheap John Huston/Jack Nicholson/Chinatown ref) feeling.

**waynieZ** · #**1115** 06-28-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

I'm now in the crowd etc or around when he fires it off and cruises away. That motor is bad azz... it rattles windows... sounds like a big block... yet is smooth (not lumpy cammed). You can be a block away and when it fires off - I know it's my car. The ground rumbles.

Greg it sounds like this discription should be in Penthouse letters for car guys!
I was getting kinds of excited.

**tones2SS** · #**1116** 06-28-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

Since I have Rudy's (my BIL) Camaro torn apart... I loaned them my Nomad (don't want him to have show withdrawal). And I'm now in the crowd etc or around when he fires it off and cruises away. That motor is bad azz... it rattles windows... sounds like a big block... yet is smooth (not lumpy cammed). You can be a block away and when it fires off - I know it's my car. The ground rumbles.

That would put a smile on my face from ear to ear.

Glad to hear that the engine is "ok" and still workable. Keep us posted.

**GregWeld** · #**1117** 06-29-2011, 05:49 PM

Guys,

It gets better and better.... Today I found the 2/4 spark plug wires crossed... toned them out and plugged them on the correct plugs. Decided as long as I was at it - I'd change plugs 'just to see how things are going'.... I can tell you the little small block has a much better torque curve now! Those two plugs being crossed up made quite the difference! I've been just fooling with things - I'm a tune up freak - and something in the exhaust just didn't sound quite right... guess I found out why!

EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA

**waynieZ** · #**1118** 06-29-2011, 07:35 PM

Almost nothing you find wrong now will surprise me. Keep digging !

Jims78elky · #**1119** 06-29-2011, 07:57 PM

Greg,

Wow..more problems...again? Just amazing what should be a simple fun project is turning into a find the big gun and go shoot something lol..Seriously, Iam sorry for all the crap this has been for you, its really a nightmare.

So what's next? If you find a half eaten Bologna sammich under the oil pan...don't worry its not mine! lol..

Hang in there buddy...hopefully you'll get some satisfying rolling time soon with it.

**GregWeld** · #**1120** 06-29-2011, 08:08 PM

as a matter of fact Jimbo......

This is what's plagued this build from the get go (since being "finished") it's been just one STUPID mistake after another on the MECHANICALS. Thank god
the fit and finish is as perfect as a guy could ask for.

I'll pull the intake tomorrow if I get to it.. I still have the core support to paint for my BIL's Camaro project. Picked up his motor from the builder today - and of course that always takes more time that you factor... too many kool other builds going on so have to chat about each one... plus they're friends so there's that jib jab too.