What do you do when your product is knocked off?

[Jr]

Originally Posted by clill

The Ring Brother's hinges open further than stock now as I compared Stielows with my stock ones on Jackass. I just need to get a set. Ring Brother's are the absolute guys that thought of and built them first on a car they had at SEMA. I t was their idea. If you want to do the right thing you will buy from the guys that came up with it first. It isn't like they gouge...They build nice stuff. As I recall Fesler showed a Camaro tail light a couple years ago that was a exact copy of a tailt light that Lillard MFG wrote the programming for and built for Marquez. It was exact right down to the random fixture holes on the back side.

Didn't you once admit that you are too cheap to purchase a set of billet hinges for Jackass?...

[phillym5]

Marquez Design... and the Ring Brothers are the truth....

nuff said.

[Sparks67]

Originally Posted by clill

The Ring Brother's hinges open further than stock now as I compared Stielows with my stock ones on Jackass. I just need to get a set. Ring Brother's are the absolute guys that thought of and built them first on a car they had at SEMA. I t was their idea. If you want to do the right thing you will buy from the guys that came up with it first. It isn't like they gouge...They build nice stuff. As I recall Fesler showed a Camaro tail light a couple years ago that was a exact copy of a tailt light that Lillard MFG wrote the programming for and built for Marquez. It was exact right down to the random fixture holes on the back side.

Well, that is nice to know. I never knew that they changed the design. I just got my RB hinges a month ago, but it will be awhile before the hood goes on. I never bought any of Fesler parts. Just the design didn't appeal to me.

Jeff

[Stuart Adams]

Put yourself in RB situation. You go thru the design, engineering , production, etc. Which takes alot of work, time and money. Then you hopefully are lucky enough for it to be likeable and purchaseable. Then you take the expensive plunge to make some for sell. Now you must make enough to pay for some of the costs to bring it to market.

Then someone copies your piece bypassing the events in the first paragraph. That would make anybody upset, right. No matter what the product is, in any arena.

Competition is one thing, making a better product is great, but copying really goes across the line IMO.

[Silver69Camaro]

Man, this thread really hits home for me. We've seen numerous copies of our designs (and branding) out there and it really ticks me off. We have even had some competitor's staff equipped with tape measures and digital cameras checking out our suspension designs at shows. Some just do not care at all...

[CCandR]

Who's the D.A. who calls RB to bitch about a product you bought from Fesler? Is the 1-800 number for customer support not working at Fesler?

Bought stuff from both people have no complaints either way...just live in the real world and know bolt on rarely means that. Worked for weeks on shocks to get Yearone "foose" hood to work with RB hinges. Worked for a while to get Fesler trunk hinges to work right.

[DOOM]

WOW ..... A hood hinge... What next, DSE vs Speedtech, BozeForge vs Rushforth, KONI vs QA-1 , we can go on and on. I really did'nt want to reply to this thread because I think its a joke personally.It would be one thing if everyone would stay on topic but this never happens it turns into a friggin love hate fest for one guy or another. So we go from a copied hood hinge to a guy getting tossed out of GOODGUYS fighting with Marquez. So where we going with this? What does this have to do with a copied hood hinge? Man when Feslers name comes up its always a sh^t storm! I never seen a vendor get blasted like this guy. I think this whole thing should be taken to the courts if R/B feels that strong about it NOT HERE! The guys been nothing but good to me and so has a ton of other vendors and I also have had alot of vendors that treat you like there doing you a favor by answering the phone!But again that has nothing to do with this thread....Just my stupid opinion...I'm done

[Bow Tie 67]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Shoot to kill.

[wmhjr]

I'll just echo Chads comments. To be honest, this kind of thing should be handled between the respective parties if there is something there. Frankly, IMHO it first tarnishes my perception of the company making the public accusation in this manner befor anything else. I don't know what happened, but I'll be honest, this thread has not helped anyone. It comes across like a lack of professionalism. Just my honest opinion. I could be way odd, but it doesn't matter if I am. This kind of public flogging creates a destructive environment. I will disclose that I'm a very satisfied Fesler customer who bought their product based on design and not price, and that in the only situation that I needed it, Carrie stood FIRMLY behind the product, going above and beyond the expected. If there is truly an infringement issue, deal with it privately and If necessarily legally. Should that happen people will understand, if there are no grounds, it's business. I can't believe it's surprising that some amount of duplication happens.

[70rs]

Band aids to frying pans.....they all get "copied" or "improved"

It happens. Move on.