Petition to abolish carb in California - Lateral-g Forums

Jgpclone · #1 08-19-2011, 12:15 PM

Petition to abolish CARB
I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but in case you haven't, there's a petition going around to abolish the California Air Resources Board (CARB) and I for one am completely for getting rid of that dishonest establishment.

Coalition of Energy Users » Sign the Petition

http://coalitionofenergyusers.org/ab...-the-petition/
Link from Tech:
Petiton: Abolish CARB!! - LS1TECH
http://ls1tech.com/forums/western-me...lish-carb.html

**camcojb** · #2 08-19-2011, 12:43 PM

I'd love to see it gone, or at least adopt some common sense. However, I really doubt that California would ever do that.

rwhite692 · #3 08-20-2011, 09:16 PM

CARB is a ridiculously bloated bureaucracy with junk science governing most of what they do...

intocarss · #4 08-20-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rwhite692

CARB is a ridiculously bloated bureaucracy with junk science governing most of what they do...

wmhjr · #5 08-21-2011, 06:17 AM

And unfortunately, CARB has infected PA. We now live with many of the fundamentally stupid edicts of CARB here. I get very frustrated just thinking about it.

**camcojb** · #6 08-21-2011, 08:56 AM

In the early 80's Weber came out with a line of replacement carbs for imports and domestics, mostly 4 cylinder stuff. They wanted to get a CARB EO# so they would be legal to sell in California, which is a huge market. They spent the mega dollars necessary to do the testing, but ultimately failed their initial testing. Not because they increased emissions.......... because they were TOO clean!

Yes, CARB in it's infinite wisdom has a % you must be within as compared to an OEM legal carb to be a legal replacement. Now I understand not allowing a replacement to be worse, but you've got to be frickin kidding me that it also cannot be cleaner! So Weber had to re-calibrate their carbs to "dirty" them up to get back into the specs required for a CARB EO#. Delayed the sales a bit, and just made absolutely no sense to me.

Don't even get me started on the "failed the visual inspection" crap. A stock LS swap into an early Camaro without cats would be way cleaner than any of the stock V8's that came in the car; that swap is not legal with CARB though unless you swap every smog item with it and get it certified through a referee station. But no problem running the stock dirty small block carb setup, that's legal! What's under the hood should not matter if it passes at the pipe for the year and model car. But it's not about smog emissions with CARB, it's about power and money. You can't even buy a CARB legal catalytic converter in California anymore if you're not a certified smog repair or muffler shop. Yep, even a certified legal replacement cat is no longer legal for sale to me to replace a defective unit on my car/truck. Yeah, CARB is great!