Investing 102

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Regarding Ford - What factors would trigger you to purchase shares?

Growing sales and profits and raising the dividend. The dividend just isn't there to cover the risk with the world economy still "struggling". If it paid me 4.5% or so to sit on my hands -- I'd be okay with that. Or -- that ever present stellar growth to offset the stinky little 1.64% dividend.


Remember this when investing. YOU ALWAYS HAVE CHOICES --- so why CHOOSE to invest in something that is a "maybe" or doesn't meet your criteria when there's 100's of companies that do?

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Remember this when investing. YOU ALWAYS HAVE CHOICES --- so why CHOOSE to invest in something that is a "maybe" or doesn't meet your criteria when there's 100's of companies that do?

Words to live by right there.

At times I find myself so fixated on company "ABC" just because it catches my eye like big boobs when in reality there are so many others that have much better bodies overall but no fake boobies.

[Bucketlist2012]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Words to live by right there.

At times I find myself so fixated on company "ABC" just because it catches my eye like big boobs when in reality there are so many others that have much better bodies overall but no fake boobies.

And you have to be into it during the rough moments...A.k.a. My KMP , which i own a lot of, is getting hammered today..

No sweat, because of the dividends, and the fact that I have opposing assets that zig when KMP zags, and they pay dividends too..

So greg, after today, should fellow listeners be buying as you said before the 31 st ????

I have I think plenty, so I may not add, but to the viewers, it may be the TIME...

Finally a question from me about investing...I have been cheer leading too much..

So, Buy KMP after the dip, and before the 31st ?????

[CRCRFT78]

I'll admit, I've been watching KMP since it was first mentioned in this thread but after reading Gregs comments about it the other day I may buy into it. The dip dropped the price and I've got some money to spend.

[Bucketlist2012]

Originally Posted by CRCRFT78

I'll admit, I've been watching KMP since it was first mentioned in this thread but after reading Gregs comments about it the other day I may buy into it. The dip dropped the price and I've got some money to spend.

I hope Greg chimes in. I am a large holder of KMP, so I am just watching this on, and not adding. But he may be right on ,as usual, haha.....especially with the 31st coming.

And big dip today..Since I own PM's, it is a wash, and not a Loss today.

I am off to East Bay Muscle Cars to test my car..It is in a Color photo shoot right now.

[Bucketlist2012]

Originally Posted by CRCRFT78

I'll admit, I've been watching KMP since it was first mentioned in this thread but after reading Gregs comments about it the other day I may buy into it. The dip dropped the price and I've got some money to spend.

I hope Greg chimes in. I am a large holder of KMP, so I am just watching this one, but he may be right on , especially with the 31st coming.

And big dip today..Since I own PM's and other asset classes, it is a wash, and not a Loss today.

I am off to East Bay Muscle Cars to test my car..It is in a Color photo shoot right now.

I may have it home Today...

[Sieg]

Dear Weldy,

What I would like to discuss next is:

-Signs that it's time to say goodbye.

-Strategies for dumping longtime loosers.

-Loss grievance techniques and support classes.

The reality is I have a few long-time holdings that I'm upside down in due to account neglegence that need to be purged from the portfolio.........including two that went bankrupt. So outside insight would be appreciated as I'm probably not the only one sitting on dead skunks.

[bdahlg68]

One stock I'd like to add for discussion is MV Oil Trust (MVO) [especially for those investing via 401k/IRA/SEP/ROTH]. High yield (via profit distribution and NOT dividend) at 8.79%, and a decent looking chart (only 5 years though). Distribution is back on the rise since the 2008/2009 drop. 5 year total return is 179.29% (at least according to ycharts.com). I like it and I'm considering getting in on this dip.

[sik68]

The internet has made it tough for a company to impress investors these days. It's not enough that a company posts a profit. It's not enough that a company beats the estimate. It seems like the only way to get people to prevent your stock from plummeting on call day is to beat the estimate by more than people expect! If I ran a company it would drive me nuts. "Come on people, what more can you ask for?!"

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by solarguy09

And you have to be into it during the rough moments...A.k.a. My KMP , which i own a lot of, is getting hammered today..

No sweat, because of the dividends, and the fact that I have opposing assets that zig when KMP zags, and they pay dividends too..

So greg, after today, should fellow listeners be buying as you said before the 31 st ????

I have I think plenty, so I may not add, but to the viewers, it may be the TIME...

Finally a question from me about investing...I have been cheer leading too much..

So, Buy KMP after the dip, and before the 31st ?????

I'm not going to "champion" individual stocks.... I only use them as examples and the thinking process I (BIG BOLD I) apply to MY (BIG BOLD MY) investing style.

KMP is an "energy" play -- i.e., pipes and transferring "energy"... and I think a well diversified portfolio should have "some" energy. Whether you choose KMP - COP - EEP - XOM - CVX all depends on your account and what you need. I personally own KMP - EEP - COP - CHKR. They give my account the diversity and the DIVIDENDS that I want. My accounts are a "bit" different than "investing 102".... they're most likely a "bit" larger -- so when I'm trying to diversify I need more than one name in a sector. I bought the COP after doing some digging around for an answer to another post back a few pages. As ALWAYS it's down since I bought it... that my friends is a "given" in investing and that's when you need to have some patience (and some fortitude).