Lots of Vendor Talk, here's my Jerry McGuire

[GregWeld]

I can tell you how we made CUSTOMERS and held PRICES -- we actually made the dealers carry inventory. Lots of it - or they weren't dealers. When you own the inventory - you can DELIVER - and you have a dealer with integrity and financial wherewithal.

Obviously that isn't possible in some of the lines we're talking about... nobody could carry all the wheels with all the variables... But that's how I did it when I ran a multimillion dollar (like 100 million in sales per year) business... No inventory investment - no dealer.

I've bought stuff from Frank -- got it within days (back when) NFW I'd buy anything now. Not taking that chance. We're friends. But that stops at the wallet.

I've bought stuff from DSE -- Got my stuff within DAYS

I've bought stuff from Muscle Rodz -- Ditto

I've bought stuff from Morrison -- Ditto

I've bought stuff from The Shop LLC -- Ditto

I've bought stuff from Ring Brothers -- Ditto

If I've read ONE THREAD about non delivery -- chalk that up to a bad "something" -- If I've read repeatedly over and over about some vendor regardless of the excuse laden posts I'm not buying anything from that guy period no way, no how, ever... I remember the old "caveat emptor" -- let the buyer beware.

[96z28ss]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I can tell you how we made CUSTOMERS and held PRICES -- we actually made the dealers carry inventory. Lots of it - or they weren't dealers. When you own the inventory - you can DELIVER - and you have a dealer with integrity and financial wherewithal.

Obviously that isn't possible in some of the lines we're talking about... nobody could carry all the wheels with all the variables... But that's how I did it when I ran a multimillion dollar (like 100 million in sales per year) business... No inventory investment - no dealer.

I've bought stuff from Frank -- got it within days (back when) NFW I'd buy anything now. Not taking that chance. We're friends. But that stops at the wallet.

I've bought stuff from DSE -- Got my stuff within DAYS

I've bought stuff from Muscle Rodz -- Ditto

I've bought stuff from Morrison -- Ditto

I've bought stuff from The Shop LLC -- Ditto

I've bought stuff from Ring Brothers -- Ditto

If I've read ONE THREAD about non delivery -- chalk that up to a bad "something" -- If I've read repeatedly over and over about some vendor regardless of the excuse laden posts I'm not buying anything from that guy period no way, no how, ever... I remember the old "caveat emptor" -- let the buyer beware.

Exactly, Summit and Jegs already carry Fesler and Ring Brother stuff. They stock there shelves with it. As soon as THEY start carrying subframes and more pro-touring type stuff. I wouldn't even try to compete. You can get stuff in 2 days with them.

[GeoffP]

Jon - I know this has already been said but, "WELL SAID"

Had you not already earned my respect two year ago when I bought 2 Nitto NT05's from you, you certainly did with your post(s). I wish you well in your new wheel manufacturing venture - you have moved your business to the top of a very short list of vendors I would even consider buying from when the time comes for new wheels.

THANK YOU!!

[DRJDVM's '69]

With some of the stuff from summit and jegs the parts get shipped from the actual company... I was looking at some fesler stuff on summit and the ship date was a week later.... Bought it straight from fesler and it shipped in 36 hours. I've had that with ARP stuff too... So Summit doesnt stock everything they sell... Sometimes they are just the middle man

But most of my summit stuff shows up in 24-36 hours... Can't beat that

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by 96z28ss

Exactly, Summit and Jegs already carry Fesler and Ring Brother stuff. They stock there shelves with it. As soon as THEY start carrying subframes and more pro-touring type stuff. I wouldn't even try to compete. You can get stuff in 2 days with them.

Jegs does carry Subframes and Torque arms, and headers. but don't think they are giving it away. it is priced at retail, they have the price list and they stick to it. why is that?
Why would the guy who is the biggest, has THE MOST SALES sell it for the most money??? isn't that opposite of what we are talking about here. do you think they make money on the products they sell.
Do people buy from them? and PAY MORE, WHAT???
oh but don't expect to call up and get TECH advise. Price Quality Service Pick 2
Who woud benifet if everyone did that? Everyone would.
just sayin.

[Vegas69]

I know, I know....

You have a rock solid reputation for delivering on time and you make so much money that you could care less if you sell another part.

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I know, I know....

You have a rock solid reputation for delivering on time and you make so much money that you could care less if you sell another part.

???? is this to me ??? maybe i'm missing something

[Neil B]

I can directly relate to Jon's frustrations, I've got competitors selling at a loss in order to get their foot in the door on long-term contracts. Pick any industry you want...this is just business in today's world. I can service my customers until I'm blue in the face and, at the end of the day, they procure through a vendor-neutral process based on cost and ability to meet requirements. In some cases, they don't even know who the vendor is because of the internal process they are required to follow. But the winning combination is still client service/relationships and the ability to repeatedly deliver on-time and with quality at a competitive price point via whatever mechanism the client desires. The days of an easy, non-competitive sale at huge margins are over. There's a time and a place to sell at little or no margin if it makes sense stategically, but at this stage you're swimming with the sharks so you better be prepared to swim.

[Vegas69]

Originally Posted by killer69

???? is this to me ??? maybe i'm missing something

Talking about Jegs. They have enough business where they don't need to discount.

[Blake Foster]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Talking about Jegs. They have enough business where they don't need to discount.

Got it .
But don't you think it is interesting that if they don't discount, they make the most margin, , have the parts in stock (most of the time) and have the most customers then become the biggest.