Can't Lower Car w/ G-Bar System

[R0LLDAMTIDE]

Does anyone have a pic of a 68 camaro with g-link that sits low? And explain how it was achieved? I see some that are low but it sounds like something other than recommended parts are used in conjunction with the g-link....? Thanks

[DEIGuy38]

Originally Posted by R0LLDAMTIDE

Does anyone have a pic of a 68 camaro with g-link that sits low? And explain how it was achieved? I see some that are low but it sounds like something other than recommended parts are used in conjunction with the g-link....? Thanks

Frojoe sent me some great pics of how he raised the shock mounting cross bar and modified the trunk floor so it kept the shock in the middle of its travel. Maybe pm him to get the pics. Check this thread post #56 for him.

[R0LLDAMTIDE]

Thanks! I'm gonna check it out

[TheJDMan]

Originally Posted by realcoray

You mean G-Bar. There are two different generations of Alston things, the G-Bar which is what the Prodigy Bar is based off of, and the G-Link which is similar but different.

The G-link doesn't need it's bearings changed in general because they have spherical already (except maybe the lowest variant). The Cradle is vastly different and I believe offers much more adjustment.

No, G-link!!! Frank sold me what he called his Prodigy 4 link. As I stated previously, what arrived was the Alston G-Link (NOT a G-Bar). BTW, the yellow section of the spring is a take up spring from Speedway Motors. This keeps tension on the upper spring retainer when the suspension is unloaded. The take-up spring became necessary when I swiched to the shorter 8-200 springs.

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by R0LLDAMTIDE

Does anyone have a pic of a 68 camaro with g-link that sits low? And explain how it was achieved? I see some that are low but it sounds like something other than recommended parts are used in conjunction with the g-link....? Thanks

part of that issue is the higher wheel lip openings over the 69. Second gen firebird guys have the same issue. We had to go to a shorter coilover, but you better make sure your good on ground clearance.

[TheJDMan]

Originally Posted by R0LLDAMTIDE

Does anyone have a pic of a 68 camaro with g-link that sits low? And explain how it was achieved? I see some that are low but it sounds like something other than recommended parts are used in conjunction with the g-link....? Thanks

This has been posted numerous times before but here it is again. DSE subframe and G-Link with 8-200 springs which allows for more adjustment down. See my previous post above.

[onevoice]

Originally Posted by TheJDMan

No, G-link!!! Frank sold me what he called his Prodigy 4 link. As I stated previously, what arrived was the Alston G-Link (NOT a G-Bar). BTW, the yellow section of the spring is a take up spring from Speedway Motors. This keeps tension on the upper spring retainer when the suspension is unloaded. The take-up spring became necessary when I swiched to the shorter 8-200 springs.

In the interest of people searching this in the future, do you have 8-200 springs, or 10-200? You said 10-200 earlier in the thread.

Also for reference, the Prodigy Bar was produced when the only option was the g-bar, or air rides version, both of which had poly bushings. Frank sold what was a g-bar that had been modified to have swivel links. He also at one time sold a kit to do the modification yourself, it included the swivel links and taps. When the G-link came out, there was no reason to do the modification, because the G-link was essentially the same thing

An interesting thing I noticed was that there is evidently different adjustment holes in the g-link brackets. The first pic has 5 adjustment holes. The second picture has 6 adjustment holes. Both are the bolt on mounts.






In the below picture, with the shock bottomed out(on the 5 hole axle bracket), the axle isn't against the frame, but notice that you can see where the factory axle bumper was attached. There isn't much room under there, and getting into the factory rubber bumper too hard will let the axle kiss the floorpan.



That is why the DSE 4link has the shock mount that cuts out so much of the factory floor, it is to provide axle clearance when the axle tube is bottomed out.

[John510]

Wow Im having this same issuer right now with my car not going as low as I want it.

Looks like I need smaller springs.

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by John510

Wow Im having this same issuer right now with my car not going as low as I want it.

Looks like I need smaller springs.

you need a shorter shock. the pic showing the shock bottomed out before hitting the bump stop is not ideal. If you run a shorter spring, it in turn has less travel and trying to get the car lower could ultimately damage the shock by bottoming it out.

[onevoice]

Originally Posted by John510

Wow Im having this same issuer right now with my car not going as low as I want it.

Looks like I need smaller springs.

Is there any wonder threads go around in circles forever? You already started a post about your car sitting high, but it isn't even assembled. What do you expect? How exactly is a car supposed to sit at ride height when it is just a shell?

This isn't rocket science guys. Coilovers exist so that springs and ride heights can be easily changed. Alston specified a coilover with 5 inches of travel, because it is generally accepted that a rear suspension needs 2-3 inches of bump travel for good handling and ride. We all know that our cars often run with less suspension travel to get the look we are after. So if you want to run lower, get shorter springs. There is plenty of adjustment on the threaded part of the shock, the different shock mount attachments, and springs, so that you can find an ideal setting for your needs. Its not like it comes welded together in one fixed position.

It really is as easy as that.

Anyone care to guess how many people would complain that there wasn't enough travel if the suspension came with a 4 inch travel shock, and bottomed out into the floorpan?