Driverz, Inc.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by dropped72ss

Where is Jon????? Is NEW GEN taking a **** as well????

It's pretty simple.

Not proved in court but silence is acquiescence when the contract is implied and the question is asked. Jon sure is silent for someone who used to post here every day.

NewGen is Driverz, Inc, Travis was Jon but then Jon became Travis and your money became Jon's and Jason got mad because someone told everyone that Jason told him that Jon was Travis and NewGen is Driverz, Inc.

[GregWeld]

So simple a caveman can do it.

[214Chevy]

Originally Posted by FETorino

....NewGen is Driverz, Inc, Travis was Jon but then Jon became Travis and your money became Jon's and Jason got mad because someone told everyone that Jason told him that Jon was Travis and NewGen is Driverz, Inc.

Now that right there is golden folks.

[Andrew]

I've been reading these threads for the last couple hours, between this and the whole prodigy customs deal it's definitely a bit of an eye opener. I feel bad for the guys posting on protouring commenting on how sweet newgen wheels are and spending thousands with Frank, but are completely oblivious to their past dealings as they (the mods) just delete any post that questions them.
Shady business for sure. Glad to see the truth is told here.

[GregWeld]

Yeah --- and other than the poor OP (Original poster) who is going to have some issues, perhaps, getting his money back...

The rest of us have at least had some fun raggin' on these DB's

[parsonsj]

Originally Posted by Andrew

but are completely oblivious to their past dealings as they (the mods) just delete any post that questions them

Have you seen the PT.com Feedback forum?

http://www.pro-touring.com/forumdisp...p?121-Feedback

It's been in place for over a year.

[Andrew]

^ Thanks for pointing that out. I had not seen the negative feedback for driverzinc there.

I was referring more to Newgen wheels being a sponsor on protouring and threads like these - http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...-Check-it-out!

Correct me if I am mistaken as I very well may be but the fellow "Jon" responsible for alot of the ish that happened with driverz is now running newgen? Similiar in construction when you steal so much money from home owners you just start up a new company with a new name. If I was a mod/admin of protouring I would want to have nothing to do with the character.

[rrunner68]

I have deliberated about posting in this speculation/character assassination-fest, for fear of being branded a "cheerleader" of sorts, but let me put this in a different light...

Let imagine perhaps someone was trying to run a vehicle customization/retail shop as well as starting up a wheel designing brand. After trying to compete in the Walmart based world of internet car part sales, you find yourself behind, but not screwing customers over. So you decide to split the companies (no small legal feat in CA) and find a young up and comer to take over the retail portion of the business. To your knowledge the deal is going through, bank accounts are being transferred to the new parties, and the new guy is taking orders, but not filling them, and the accounts are signed over, so you have no means of tracking or accessing the monies. After weeks of the money coming in and no parts going out, the guy cleans out the accounts and backs out of the deals. You now have a huge liability, a guy that has access to all of your assets and has been stealing from your customers for the last 3 months.
So the best thing you can do is suspend your business license so he can no longer conduct business under your or your companies name, grab a moving truck and take everything that isn't bolted down and put it in your garage before it ends up on eBay or craigslist. Then hire the best lawyer that money can buy and sit back and watch the wonderful world of the Internets tear you and your livelihood asunder.

Now I'm not saying that this is what happened, but since we are all throwing out wild accusations, I figured I'd try too.

What I can state as a FACT is that in the last 4 weeks I have bought and paid for products from JON at NEWGEN WHEELS, received all products (in person) in a timely fashion, and as recently as 2 weeks ago.

What I have seen on the forums is orders placed through Travis (a real person) or Jon (on behalf of Driverz to ensure a smooth transition of his former company) that were not filled. And a bunch of rightly pissed off people with no money and no parts. File a complaint with your CC company, and good luck in your future penny-pinching endeavors.

Just a thought. I wish all parties involved the best.

[garickman]

Originally Posted by rrunner68

To your knowledge the deal is going through, bank accounts are being transferred to the new parties, and the new guy is taking orders, but not filling them, and the accounts are signed over, so you have no means of tracking or accessing the monies. After weeks of the money coming in and no parts going out, the guy cleans out the accounts and backs out of the deals. You now have a huge liability, a guy that has access to all of your assets and has been stealing from your customers for the last 3 months.
So the best thing you can do is suspend your business license so he can no longer conduct business under your or your companies name, grab a moving truck and take everything that isn't bolted down and put it in your garage before it ends up on eBay or craigslist. Then hire the best lawyer that money can buy and sit back and watch the wonderful world of the Internets tear you and your livelihood asunder.

Anything is possible, and I am not one of the people who got screwed out of money. I am just an outsider pointing out some inconsistencies to help those who did get screwed. The two problems I see with your theory are this;

1. There are several customers who ordered through Jon and paid long before Jon left the company in some cases several months who have no product and no return of their money.

2. There are customers who ordered wheels through this alleged new owner yet their paypal payments went to Jon@driverzinc.

[parsonsj]

Andrew, no problem.

As you've noticed, the YellowBullet claims about PT.com and deleted posts weren't exactly accurate.

Anyway, NewGen's status on PT.com is under review. We'll make a decision this coming week.

jp