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04-09-2012, 06:33 AM
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I like how the answer is just "do a chargeback"
Uhh no how about fraud and grand theft = felony
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Do you have an order in with Driverz or are you one the many on here jumping in just to pile on? I check out once the token I am driving out myself to "collect" even though I am not one of the customers to get burned guy chimes in. You guys can threaten law suits, felonies, and BS wannabe tough guy threats all you want, it means nothing. If you are involved and have not charged back your card yet, your a knucklehead.
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04-09-2012, 10:50 AM
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04-09-2012, 11:01 AM
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i unfortunately think that some people are afraid to air their complaints about some of the well known vendors. theres no way that the guys on the left are perfect every time. what matters is they are perfect most of the time. with 3 strikes and youre out, i think most on the right would be gone.
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04-09-2012, 03:31 PM
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theres a LOT of editing going on ! i read something one day and half hour later they take pieces out... the bit about Jon could lose everything, his house, his car,  ect was a classic. Im getting plenty of Moderator support too..I think we should be able to say what we want unless its personel attacks between members.
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04-09-2012, 03:51 PM
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theres a LOT of editing going on ! i read something one day and half hour later they take pieces out... the bit about Jon could lose everything, his house, his car,  ect was a classic. Im getting plenty of Moderator support too..I think we should be able to say what we want unless its personel attacks between members.
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I asked that the personal attacks stop. Any other editing is on whomever decided to do that.
The problem with these threads has been presented time after time. In reality the individuals who have had experiences with Drivers Inc directly should be putting their feedback in the feedback forum, not here. I would much prefer that. The only reason the thread has not been locked is because we have so many members with issues, and I was hoping that Jon would fill us in. Doesn't look like that will be happening.
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04-09-2012, 04:06 PM
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got a pm back from Jon:
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Over the past 6 years I've met and helped a lot of you with your wheels, and your cars, and have made some great friends along the way. It is with a very heavy heart that I have to type this and let you all know that Driverz Inc is now forced to close.
Unfortunately, due to a bad business deal between myself, and Travis, it left me and the company in a debt it could not bounce back from. There are many contributing factors to the bad deal, which are to remain between Travis and I, and any further litigation that may take place in the future. Discussing that in an open forum or a chat room is not something we can do, nor is it a good idea.
There has been some left field accusations regarding if Travis was even a real person. Yes, he is a real person, that's assanine to say the least. People even met him at RTTC this year, and have talked to him, and worked with him in the past. Not sure why I'm even responding to that, but I guess it had to be said.
There has also been some claims that Driverz Inc was not a legit corporation. Of course it was, it is registered with a Federal Tax ID 43-2111293 since 2006 when I started the business. As of earlier this year, the corporation that is registered with the California Secretary of State suspended the corporation because it owed its 700 dollar corporation fee to the State, along with a Corporate Minutes and Statement of Information. All of which were filled out, with the new owners name, and were to be filed. Driverz Inc is now CLOSED, and will no longer be doing any business.
There is also a claim that NewGen Wheels, LLC is not a legit business as well. In response, It was filed with Legal Zoom, in December of last year, and as of January has its own Federal Tax ID 45-4298410 If you login to the California Secretary of State website here: http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx , you can see its been registered, and am now waiting on the Statement of Information office to document who the owners are, etc. (This office is 6 months behind, and you can see that here: http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/be/processing-times.htm)
Because of the open debts that I personally signed a guarantee for, for Travis, and because of the debt accrued over the past 4 months of bills not being paid, nobody at the helm, and because my name is what is left on the majority of the shop's bills as a personal guarantor, I have been forced to also file personal bankruptcy. So for all of the conspirators who think I have money hidden in my mattress, you are greatly mistaken. I'd want nothing more than to re-fi the house, or liquidate any personal assets to cover the debt owed by Driverz Inc, but I have nothing left fellas, over the years I've sold cars, re-financed cars, re-financed my parents house, borrowed from Dad's life insurance, sold anything I could to do what it took to at least make sure customers got what they ordered, but the debt on top of the open orders is whats now forcing me to do what I have to, which I wish I didn't. Over the past two weeks, we've had to move out of our shop, and make legal arrangements to first cover my family, and to make sure we were not saying anything we couldn't at the time, and to seek legal representation to help us through what is going to happen from here on in.
If anyone has not received their open orders that were paid to Driverz, Inc, you have the option of contacting your crediting agency. They are your legal protection, and can credit back your credit card after filing a dispute and some paperwork. That is your way of taking care of you. It may be a minor inconvenience, but it is there to help you. Many of you I've already called and said the exact same thing too. Some of you didn't want to listen, and I can't help that, and some of you said you were already doing so, regardless, some of you will at least note I tried to call you tell you what to do. To the super pissed guy who sent a certified letter to my Mom's house, its not going to change the facts at this time that is that Driverz Inc, and Jon Henson are broke. I suggest doing as what was stated a few sentences ago, and order your parts direct from the vendor.
It is to be very clear that NewGen Wheels, LLC is a completely separate entity and business entirely. I realize that moving forward it will only hurt because of it being connected to Driverz Inc, and myself, however, it is a separate entity that is still producing a product and its owners are doing what we can to keep it moving forward. It may take a LONG time for it to regain a good name, or any sort of trust in the market place, but we'll keep moving forward, even if its only for close customers and friends. All open NewGen orders, that were paid to NewGen Wheels, are being processed, although some have been delayed due to the fore mentioned. If you have any questions regarding NewGen Wheels, or your open order with NewGen Wheels, or if you paid Driverz Inc for NewGen Wheels, please contact me at 951-254-3039.
Phone calls and/or emails will be answered in as timely a fashion as possible, although a little slower due to the fore mentioned. I will not be on the forums for awhile after this, as I obviously must dedicate time to the matters at hand, so any PM's that go unanswered please pick up the phone, or send an email. Any responses to the above statement can be answered via phone or email as well.
For what its worth, my sincerest apologies for all those who are caught up in this horrible situation, and I wish that things did not work out this way. Its is unfortunate for all parties involved, well, almost all parties involved, and I hope that most of you take the time to look at this situation objectively and understand that their are a lot of contributing factors that went into this the final outcome. I'm not a member of all the forums people are posting on, nor am I aware of all the threads so I ask that those of you who can, please re-post. Thank you.
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04-09-2012, 04:09 PM
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Do you have an order in with Driverz or are you one the many on here jumping in just to pile on? I check out once the token I am driving out myself to "collect" even though I am not one of the customers to get burned guy chimes in. You guys can threaten law suits, felonies, and BS wannabe tough guy threats all you want, it means nothing. If you are involved and have not charged back your card yet, your a knucklehead.
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You should know I called you everyday for months.
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04-09-2012, 05:22 PM
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Well, like I told Jon the last time we spoke. A "man" does what he says he is going to do and conducts himself with integrity. If you mess up you clean up your mess & don't blame everyone else for your mistakes. It sounds like he has been holding on by a string for awhile and in my opinion should have just closed his doors and not put guys like me through the ringer dealing with him!
I'm out 6 months w/o my car and about $1k, and he still acted like he did me a favor. So, to all the guys still supporting Jon, it simply means you never had a deal go sideways with him and deal with the incompetence.
Anyways, nice to see he's moving on with Newgen and leaving all this in the past????
Btw-My issue was a incorrectly done suspension install (paid for 6+ months ago) so I'm SOL, but if anyone needs additional info from me to pursue legal and/or criminal charges they are welcome to PM me regarding my situation. As I've kept all emails, text, invoices etc....from my dealings with Jon.
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04-09-2012, 05:50 PM
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I dont see a lot of New Gen wheels selling after this,,,
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04-10-2012, 05:48 AM
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I dont see a lot of New Gen wheels selling after this,,,
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It definitely won't help, but don't be surprised if NewGen does well for awhile... people still fall for those Nigerian scams even.
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