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Old 04-09-2012, 08:46 AM
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I wonder which quick change manufacturer, That is a pretty odd place to crack. I wonder if it might be mounted in correctly. Those quickchanges typically handle quite a bit of power with ease.
Considering the original builder, what's the chance the frame isn't square or properly reinforced and the housing is being stressed?
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:00 AM
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Considering the original builder, what's the chance the frame isn't square or properly reinforced and the housing is being stressed?


The rear end was removed and re-installed by Brizio and I'm sure if they saw something wrong - they would have either fixedededed it or talked to me about it. But I will be interested in what Jeff K has to say - and will send photos etc and ask him about the installation!
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:41 AM
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Kugel Komponents Kustomer Service at it's finest!!!


I had sent Jeff Kugel a picture of the Mariana's Trench in the case on Sunday -- he calls first thing this morning. He's already spoken with Winters about my issues -- and all I need to do is to drop the ENTIRE reared out of the roadster - send it to Kugel - and they will rebuild and inspect every square inch of it - inside and out.... and ship it back to me. Not once mentioning "abuse" or that I broke it - or that it shouldn't have happened.... just a simple "How do you want to handle it? Want to bring the car to us to have us do the work or..."

On several occasions I've said I will be more than happy to PAY whatever it takes to get this all squared away... and not once has he said - "well... it's going to cost X". Not once. I will -- somehow -- take care of him/them.

THAT IS HOW A COMPANY BUILDS AND MAINTAINS A GREAT REPUTATION.



Winters makes a heavier version than the Champs - but they're not happy with it all polished out.... the casting is porous.... so they're working to make it better but this will take awhile -- so that's not an option.
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Thats good news , everyone at Kugel have always been top notch , great company to do business with, glad to hear they are making at painless as possible for you Greg
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:21 PM
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Thats good news , everyone at Kugel have always been top notch , great company to do business with, glad to hear they are making at painless as possible for you Greg
I couldn't agree more.... Just top top notch in my book.


When I was in business -- things go sideways.... it's always HOW you handle it, not what actually happened... that is what is remembered. I will remember this as "Kugel is someone to buy from".
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Good to hear Kugel's response.

Sometimes projects need to be treated like infants, they don't always come out of the womb perfect. But with time, patience, and understanding they can be well worth the effort all said and done. The upside to vehicle projects is there's a usually a lot more foreplay involved.
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'Foreplay'?? I'm still buying dinner!
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Good to hear Kugel's response.

Sometimes projects need to be treated like infants, they don't always come out of the womb perfect. But with time, patience, and understanding they can be well worth the effort all said and done. The upside to vehicle projects is there's a usually a lot more foreplay involved.


After 40 some years of projects... I think I have a pretty good understanding of what it takes. It really isn't my first goat rodeo. I could make a list - but it would be over the limits of a post....

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