1967 Camaro for OUSCI

[sik68]

More power & less weight, but significant enough changes to warrant the expense of building a new car vs. modifying RD...there's something in plain sight that we aren't seeing!

[OLDFLM]

Originally Posted by sik68

More power & less weight, but significant enough changes to warrant the expense of building a new car vs. modifying RD...there's something in plain sight that we aren't seeing!

More power in a smaller and lighter car...

[sik68]

Originally Posted by OLDFLM

More power in a smaller and lighter car...

Yep, 67 vs 69 as he said is a lighter platform...maybe 200lbs max between the two? There is aluminum front sheetmetal for a 69 though so there may be something to offset that.

I'm also on pins and needles to see what you're doing with the tire widths...near 50/50 weight distribution with square or nearly square widths?

Oh yeah, PTM...you heard it here first!

[preston]

Time to start moving the drivetrain and passengers backwards in the car.

Whenever I contemplate pro-tour competitive builds, I am alwasy stumped by what you can do to be better than a late model vette- They have us beat on weight distribution, IRS, unsprung weight, aero, and development. If I was building a max effort pro-tour car I think I would just give up and drop a vintage body on a C6 running chassis. Because the down side to the vette of course is you see 5 of them a day even in Seattle.

The other avenue you can pursue of course is the super lightweight approach ie street rod based design or similar. That won't work with the muscle car envelope though.

Well Stielow's builds are always interesting although with his car building experience I'd like to see him push the envelope a bit more. As he's said though the key to much of his success is being fairly conservative overall and simply applying ingenuity to the details.

[OLDFLM]

Aluminum core supports are also available (AutoRad) as well as complete CF front clips for these cars... even 2nd Gen Pontiac Firebird/Tran Ams have CF noses, hoods, fenders and doors now!

I'd like to see Mark take advantage of ALL of the weight saving products available from out site sponsors and other vendors!

[Track Junky]

Mark, any interest in the GRM Ultimate Track Car Challenge? I know the car wont be ready for this years event but maybe next year?

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by OLDFLM

Aluminum core supports are also available (AutoRad) as well as complete CF front clips for these cars... even 2nd Gen Pontiac Firebird/Tran Ams have CF noses, hoods, fenders and doors now!

I'd like to see Mark take advantage of ALL of the weight saving products available from out site sponsors and other vendors!

Ty who makes complete first gen carbon fiber clips?

[Ron in SoCal]

99% sure it's lighter Jeff, but may not be significant savings; you can pick that thing up w your pinky. The opening is wider to support their wider radiator...

[itsals1]

No matter what Mark decides, it will be awesome! I think the best part of this build is that its a 67' NOT a 69'. Hopefully will see some of his engineering marvels for us 67' camaro lovers.

Travis

[Ron in SoCal]

We're saying the same thing Jeff. 12 lbs vs 17. 100lbs = - .10. Not significant, but light enough to pick up w your pinky.