2nd Chance Camaro - Let the Project Begin

[syborg tt]

2nd Chance Camaro - DSE Brake Booster Install

2012 07-02 Update - DSE Brake Booster Install
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening All,

It's very important to mock everything up before paint and final assembly. The perfect example is what happened when I installed
the Brake Booster. The angle is off even though this is the correct DSE part number for a 70 Camaro.

You can see that the hood won't close with the supplied bracket. So back on the phone with DSE to talk with Tech Support,
send some pictures and wait for a response & solution.







A few weeks later DSE has a solution and it's simple bracket swap. I like simple, especially when your trying to build a bolt-on
Camaro.



The new bracket part # 050302 if you need one.



Problem Solved - Thank you DSE

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[Steve68]

Originally Posted by syborg tt

2nd Chance Camaro - DSE Brake Booster Install

2012 07-02 Update - DSE Brake Booster Install
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening All,

It's very important to mock everything up before paint and final assembly. The perfect example is what happened when I installed
the Brake Booster. The angle is off even though this is the correct DSE part number for a 70 Camaro.

You can see that the hood won't close with the supplied bracket. So back on the phone with DSE to talk with Tech Support,
send some pictures and wait for a response & solution.







A few weeks later DSE has a solution and it's simple bracket swap. I like simple, especially when your trying to build a bolt-on
Camaro.



The new bracket part # 050302 if you need one.



Problem Solved - Thank you DSE

I asked Stacey about this at the Turkey run in Daytona, she looked at me like I had 2 heads, told me I was wrong, I told her that I had 2 people tell me it wont fit, and my own car, she didnt want to talk to me anymore after that, and I've known her since they were small and located in MI,

Great build, love the racks for the bikes, and the kids in on the build,

[syborg tt]

Originally Posted by Steve68

I asked Stacey about this at the Turkey run in Daytona, she looked at me like I had 2 heads, told me I was wrong, I told her that I had 2 people tell me it wont fit, and my own car, she didnt want to talk to me anymore after that, and I've known her since they were small and located in MI,

Great build, love the racks for the bikes, and the kids in on the build,

Hi Steve,

I like DSE products just not their customer support. The few times that I have had to call with questions/concerns it's met with resistance. The brake booster was a perfect example I had to show them the hood wouldn't close before they believed me.

Right before I started this build I tried to talk with DSE at GG Columbus and GG Indy about buying there subframe and both times I was blown off. It's to bad as there subframe was the most beautiful one on the market at that time.

Now that the Speed Tech, Art Morrison and the Roadster Shop is making a subframe and the Roadster Shop full frame for 2nd gen Camaro's it's going to be hard for me not to consider there stuff for my next project.

[Steve68]

I know the feling,

I try not to buy DSE parts, but, I have there stuff for my car,

I have a Scott Mock sub for my car, I'm kinda of over the high end
"leg humping" of all the big builders/parts suppliers get from people,

I've tried to talk to Kyle before, ignored me and walked right by, great way to get people to buy your product,

I got another great story but it cant be discussed on these fourms, involves a high doller Chevelle build and a well named driver,

[syborg tt]

and that is why I buy as much as I can from the guys at Ride-Tech. Pick up the phone got a question and they stop what they are doing to help you. Heck I even stripped the threads on a bracket and I called them at 3pm and they packed and shipped it out to me the same day.

That is customer service.

FYI - I am in no way trying to dis DSE just stating they need to work on there customer service and when a potential customer with $20,000 in cash walks up to you at a show and tells you they want to buy your product don't blow them off twice in the matter of 10 minutes.

Originally Posted by Steve68

I know the feling,

I try not to buy DSE parts, but, I have there stuff for my car,

I have a Scott Mock sub for my car, I'm kinda of over the high end
"leg humping" of all the big builders/parts suppliers get from people,

I've tried to talk to Kyle before, ignored me and walked right by, great way to get people to buy your product,

I got another great story but it cant be discussed on these fourms, involves a high doller Chevelle build and a well named driver,

[Steve68]

Originally Posted by syborg tt

and that is why I buy as much as I can from the guys at Ride-Tech. Pick up the phone got a question and they stop what they are doing to help you. Heck I even stripped the threads on a bracket and I called them at 3pm and they packed and shipped it out to me the same day.

That is customer service.

FYI - I am in no way trying to dis DSE just stating they need to work on there customer service and when a potential customer with $20,000 in cash walks up to you at a show and tells you they want to buy your product don't blow them off twice in the matter of 10 minutes.

I'm with ya, I like there stuff and there ideas, but I'm likeing the other guys, I'm going to buy ride tech shocks when my cars ready for them,

and it's all about customer service, and I have gotten some good CS from them too,

[Ketzer]

Love the build! Especially the involvement of family! My very first car, bought as a shell and pieced back together during high school was a second gen (30 years ago).

Hydroboost seems all the rage for brakes but you're using a conventional booster?


Jeff-

[syborg tt]

Originally Posted by Ketzer

Love the build! Especially the involvement of family! My very first car, bought as a shell and pieced back together during high school was a second gen (30 years ago).

Hydroboost seems all the rage for brakes but you're using a conventional booster?


Jeff-

Thank you for the compliments on the build.

Why not Hydroboost - not needed in this application. Most people use Hydroboost when there is a space problem or a vacumn problem and this car doesn't have either issue.

I used them on Syclone/ Typhoon projects in the past and they really work. The pedal is super sensitive and takes some getting used to.

[brownz]

Originally Posted by syborg tt

Hi Steve,

I like DSE products just not their customer support. The few times that I have had to call with questions/concerns it's met with resistance. The brake booster was a perfect example I had to show them the hood wouldn't close before they believed me.

Right before I started this build I tried to talk with DSE at GG Columbus and GG Indy about buying there subframe and both times I was blown off. It's to bad as there subframe was the most beautiful one on the market at that time.

Now that the Roadster Shop is making a subframe and full frames for 2nd gen Camaro's it's going to be hard for me not to consider there stuff for my next project.

Originally Posted by Steve68

I asked Stacey about this at the Turkey run in Daytona, she looked at me like I had 2 heads, told me I was wrong, I told her that I had 2 people tell me it wont fit, and my own car, she didnt want to talk to me anymore after that, and I've known her since they were small and located in MI,

Great build, love the racks for the bikes, and the kids in on the build,

Originally Posted by Steve68

I know the feling,

I try not to buy DSE parts, but, I have there stuff for my car,

I have a Scott Mock sub for my car, I'm kinda of over the high end
"leg humping" of all the big builders/parts suppliers get from people,

I've tried to talk to Kyle before, ignored me and walked right by, great way to get people to buy your product,

I got another great story but it cant be discussed on these fourms, involves a high doller Chevelle build and a well named driver,

Originally Posted by syborg tt

and that is why I buy as much as I can from the guys at Ride-Tech. Pick up the phone got a question and they stop what they are doing to help you. Heck I even stripped the threads on a bracket and I called them at 3pm and they packed and shipped it out to me the same day.

That is customer service.

FYI - I am in no way trying to dis DSE just stating they need to work on there customer service and when a potential customer with $20,000 in cash walks up to you at a show and tells you they want to buy your product don't blow them off twice in the matter of 10 minutes.

I understand all that has been said here. I have had issues with the DSE parts. The booster bracket ( thanks Marty for the heads up) mono to multi leaf addapter, Wiper kit for my 79 camaro the switch bracket was bent the wrong way and they told me I was wrong until I email two pictures to them and they said UMMMM I dont know what happened .

The only part that I did not have a problem with was the DSE deep tubs. and the only reason for this is you have to make them fit yourself.

I do like the parts they make and usually hear good things but I will not be getting any more parts from them if I can help it. I may not have a ton of cash to spend but its still real money.

All this being said I have had nothing but GREAT customer service with the guys at Ride Tech and now I know the company that will be getting my money.

Marty keep the pics coming and sorry for the rant

Dont forget you still have my number for some pics

Brandon

[coolwelder62]

Marty,The build is coming along great.Going to be an amazing car when it's finished.