Healthy Living 101

[Chad-1stGen]

Originally Posted by Tony_SS

If I may offer a critique to that diet plan, it is very outdated and misguided!

Eat the whole egg, including the yolk! and drink vitamin D milk.
Include dark meat chicken
Steam the broccoli and include other veggies like carrots and cauliflower and add real butter and real sea salt!
Skip the 'whole grain' anything and eat very minimal amounts of breads.
Skip the 'protein' drink... synthetic protein is rancid and unhealthy.

The myth that saturated fat is bad for us is simply NOT true! It is essential for our bodies to have that.
Sugars, flours, fillers, processed grains, vegetable oils are bad for us.

Google Weston A Price for more info.

Thanks for the feedback/suggestions Tony. I've been doing all kinds of reading lately on this kind of stuff and have been experimenting with food recently. However, the next 90 days while doing P90X I will stick with their nutrition plan because I've done it before and it works.

I did google Weston A Price and found it ironic that you state my diet plan is very outdated and misguided when Weston Price did his research 70-80+ years ago and there is quite a bit online in the short time I googled evidencing he was way off base on stuff. His observations sound a whole lot like the paleo diet which does clearly work very well for folks and I'm curious about possibly trying it after I complete P90X.

That said I am getting more into natural foods and but I am not gonna eat dark meat cause I hate the taste

[Tony_SS]

Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen

Thanks for the feedback/suggestions Tony. I've been doing all kinds of reading lately on this kind of stuff and have been experimenting with food recently. However, the next 90 days while doing P90X I will stick with their nutrition plan because I've done it before and it works.

I did google Weston A Price and found it ironic that you state my diet plan is very outdated and misguided when Weston Price did his research 70-80+ years ago and there is quite a bit online in the short time I googled evidencing he was way off base on stuff. His observations sound a whole lot like the paleo diet which does clearly work very well for folks and I'm curious about possibly trying it after I complete P90X.

That said I am getting more into natural foods and but I am not gonna eat dark meat cause I hate the taste

I appreciate that humor! lol. It's true, he did his studies then, but they are not based on fads. Personally I find them fascinating.

By 'dated' I meant in terms of the 'low fat, high protein' craze that was popular in the late 80's-90's. I did p90X. I think it's a great workout. Knowing what I know now about that diet, I very much disagree with it.

The paleo diet is flawed itself too, and is very much a similar fad, but it's a step in the right direction, except for the fact that it discounts the use of quality dairy products. So it's really lacking there.

The food processing industry carries a lot of clout and influence.. unfortunately I think this negatively effects the 'health' industry in which many professionals are misguided about what is healthy and what is not.

Quick example, cholesterol, butter and salt are all very good for you. They have essential saturated fats and iodine that are need for nutrient absorption. If you exclude them from your diet you're going to be deficient. You might 'look' like you are in great shape, but your body will not be healthy.

Foods in their whole natural forms are healthiest and natural fats do not make us fat, they are essential.

[syborg tt]

Quick example, cholesterol, butter and salt are all very good for you. They have essential saturated fats and iodine that are need for nutrient absorption. If you exclude them from your diet you're going to be deficient. You might 'look' like you are in great shape, but your body will not be healthy.

Perfect example: Reduce salt from a pregnant women and see how fast she goes into labor.

Trust me it's a very effective. We need salt and fat in our diet.

ps I will try to post up in the next couple day's the "Cover the Plate" Diet plan that I follow. I've used it for 20 years and had over 100 people follow it and everyone has decreased there bodyfat and maintained it.

and yes it's a 3 + 1 Meal plan designed for our fast paced society.

[legend]

Originally Posted by Tony_SS

If I may offer a critique to that diet plan, it is very outdated and misguided!

Eat the whole egg, including the yolk! and drink vitamin D milk.
Include dark meat chicken
Steam the broccoli and include other veggies like carrots and cauliflower and add real butter and real sea salt!
Skip the 'whole grain' anything and eat very minimal amounts of breads.
Skip the 'protein' drink... synthetic protein is rancid and unhealthy.

The myth that saturated fat is bad for us is simply NOT true! It is essential for our bodies to have that.
Sugars, flours, fillers, processed grains, vegetable oils are bad for us.

Google Weston A Price for more info.

I'm with this guy

although whole grains are not the devil either

[Vegas69]

Most everything is OK in moderation. Your not going to see me eating butter with dinner everynight or farm raised fish all the time due to it's increased cholesterol and fat.

If the foods you eat lead you to be overweight, it's going to effect your health in a negative way. From diabetes to lower back pain and on down the line. Then the doctors subscribe pills as a bandaid when a lifestyle change is really what's needed.


"What's easy to do, is also easy NOT to do" -Jim Rohn

I've been trucking along still working out 5-6 days a week and sticking to the same types of foods that got me to my ideal weight of 175. (I tipped the scale at 174.8 after vacation) The weather is finally starting to cool off and I enjoyed my first sub 80 degree run in 4 months this morning.

One thing I've been struggling with for a few weeks is regularity. When I changed my diet I had no problem up until a few weeks ago. It hasn't been discussed, what works for you? I know fiber isn't the problem as I get nearly my daily most days at breakfast.

[skatinjay27]

loosen the stick you got up there!

[Chad-1stGen]

Forgot to mention that P90X day 3 is complete Got up bright and early and did arms & shoulders & ab ripper

[Tony_SS]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Most everything is OK in moderation. Your not going to see me eating butter with dinner everynight or farm raised fish all the time due to it's increased cholesterol and fat.

We have been taught from day one that these things are bad... they are not! You can eat foods rich in cholesterol and high in saturated fat and you will be as healthy as a horse. It's lubrication and is essential for vitamin and mineral absorption.

Originally Posted by Vegas69

If the foods you eat lead you to be overweight, it's going to effect your health in a negative way. From diabetes to lower back pain and on down the line.

All of that is a result of eating too many highly processed grains, sugars and vegetable oils. They are industry byproducts, highly profitable and toxic. They are what cause all heart disease, diabetes, etc that is rampant in the western world's diet.

Originally Posted by Vegas69

One thing I've been struggling with for a few weeks is regularity. When I changed my diet I had no problem up until a few weeks ago. It hasn't been discussed, what works for you? I know fiber isn't the problem as I get nearly my daily most days at breakfast.

You could set your clock to my regularity. Every monring about 8.30 I'm on the throne. I do not eat ANY fiber at all - from grains. All my fiber comes from fruits, vegetables and some from beans.

My suggestion to help. Stop with the fiber from shredded wheat and other 'whole grains'. Cut those out. Increase your vegetable intake. Double it. Peppers, eggplant, broccoli, spinach, asparagus, carrots, etc. Increase your vitamin C. Drink 36-48oz of (non-fluoridated!) water a day. Keep the sugar drinks down to 12oz or less. And get your saturated fats in you. Eat 2-3 eggs every other morning. And, you're in California, yes? Get 12oz of Raw, unpasteurized milk in you every day. Your whole body and energy level will change. You'll be regular and your entrails will be in good health.

We've talked about fads and gimmick in health and diet... the latest gimmick is "whole grains" in everything. Well, this is the another marketing farce. What they really are, is highly processed, GMO grains devoid of any real nutrition. Don't get me wrong, I still eat some grains, but they do not dominate my diet, they are 10-15% of my diet at the most. Anymore than that and your putting too much industrial byproduct inside yourself.

[Chad-1stGen]

I set a goal weight for myself on June 24th, the day I started using myfitnesspal, and this morning i hit it for the first time! I'm stoked. I'm sure I'll bounce above it for a bit as my weight tends to bounce around day to day but will be steadily at or under it soon. That is a weight loss of 23.2 lbs from 6/24 until today.

Oh and P90X day 4 Yoga X workout done.

[JKnight]

Nicely done Chad.

I've considered starting the P90X thing but my schedule kinda sets me up for failure when the goal is to work out as many days in a row as that program requires.

Keep it up!