Somebody FREAKIN shoot me!!!!

[SuperSport]

Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012

I would say the proper choice was Ron Paul...

You are not alone.

[Shmoov69]

You're right Ned! "That's" they best they could come up with?!?! But that just further reinforces my thought that they all are in cahoots!!

[GregWeld]

The Republican Party needs to separate itself from:

Religion


What a woman chooses to do with their body


Lilly white rich guys (and I happen to be one of those....)


The Democratic Party needs to separate itself from:


More social programs for "everyone"


More Government is good


Class warfare ideology

[Vegas69]

It's the same rhetoric every time around on both sides. I agree, you have to change your approach if you want to change your results. It's going to take time to change the past, that's the real problem.

[Blake Foster]

what is the defination of insanity again???

doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome?

[Vegas69]

[Eleanor's Nemesis]

Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69

Congress ultimatley decides what gets done in this country. They have way more influence that the President by himself. Until the democrats and republicans in congress can work together, nothing positive will ever get done.

They all need to stop fighting against each others views and policies just because the plan or policy came form the "other team", and do what is right for the country....until that happens, we are all screwed no matter who holds the presidency.

I voted for Obama the first time.....he has unquestionably let me down.... the presidency was prime for the taking....a lob pitch across the plate.....and the best that the Republican could do was Mitt Romney? You guys want to point fingers, then point it at the Republican party for not having a candidate that could win the Presidency when it was prime for the taking....

I tend to think Congress has more power than the President, but those executive orders can be a real thrill and one of the most powerful and longlasting things the Prez can do is nominate US Supreme Court Justices. Of course they have to get Senate approval but the Dems lead there too.

I know we all rag on Congress, and a lot of them are worthy of such, but I do believe they (for the most part) think they are doing what's best for the country. We just all disagree on what's best for the country lots of the time.

I think Mitt was a pretty good candidate. Mitt was probably the most liberal Republican candidate for Prez in the past 100 years, if not more. He still didn't win and I think a more conservative candidate probably would have fared worse.

Something that should be chilling to the Republican Party is the fact that since 1988 they have only won the popular vote one time.

[Van B]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Not only a lob across the plate ONCE.... BUT in the LAST TWO elections!!



And I couldn't agree with you more about CONGRESS (House and Senate). People in the USA just don't understand that this is a FAR MORE IMPORTANT VOTE than for the POTUS.

THAT is why our education system needs an overhaul! We teach all manor of STUFF -- but people can't do or understand BASICS.

I see half the guys on this board using "their" (as in THEMSELVES) - "there" (as in a PLACE) and "they're" (as in THEY ARE) wrong daily! And "to" (going somewhere?) and "too" (too big, too small, too few cubic inches - me too, as in also)....

I'll give you a pass on using "manor" where you should have used "manner" right before going into a rant about people misusing words...

[Mkelcy]

I don't know how many of you actually watched the Republican primary debates, but asking how many of the candidates believed in evolution with - maybe- one hand raised? Really?

The Republicans used to have intellectual vitality, rigorous arguments and decent positions on the issues. Now they are simply anti-[name your interest] know nothings.

Unless and until the Republicans define themselves, rather than letting Rush, Fox News and the Tea Party define them, they are the 21st century Whigs.

[Eleanor's Nemesis]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

The Republican Party needs to separate itself from:

Religion


What a woman chooses to do with their body


Lilly white rich guys (and I happen to be one of those....)


The Democratic Party needs to separate itself from:


More social programs for "everyone"


More Government is good


Class warfare ideology

I agree. But let's go a bit further on the Republican side-

As much as they need more of the female vote they need the Hispanic vote even more. This is pure demographics at work here.

The Pubs have a good hold on Texas...but that state has gone from 'red' to 'pink' and in another 10 years or so it's possible that the majority of the Texas population will be latino.

If the Pubs lose Texas it is simply 'game over' in Presidential elections for them. They have to win over the Hispanic vote, and quite frankly I"m suprised it"s such a struggle for them. Hispanics are typically Catholic and have strong family values-which jive with things Republican. But then again when the Repub candidate speaks about 'illegals' and self-return to their country of origin it doesn't bode well for getting votes.