Shooting in Connecticut

[GregWeld]

Just read some responses to the NRA call for staffing schools in the local news paper.... and it's interesting that the SPLIT is so obvious - the elected officials think guarding the schools is a ridiculous idea - and they clamor for gun bans... but every police department (except one) thought it was a good idea and already had "SRO's" (School Resource Officers) in place. There was - of course - the question of cost and who pays. That is a natural consideration. Thus my earlier proposal to tax guns and ammo etc heavily.

King County Sheriffs Dept. --- the largest population base in the state --- has been having budget issues for YEARS...


http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/...tions-schools/

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

My guess is that 100's of thousands of guns have been sold just because of the ban talk. It's an absolute boon to gun shops/dealers.

The last three years have been above "factored" historical sales, all 3 of the dealers have been around for 20+ years. It's like selling Harley's in the early 90's

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Public opinion was arm teachers?

Potential problems with that is 7 of 10 teachers probably aren't capable and 9 of 10 are probably of the anti-gun mindset.


I would imagine the NRA needs significant public support before the lawmakers will objectively listen to them.

The Thurston HS Kip Kinkle shooting spree that took place 3 miles from my house. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_Kinkel
I had numerous longtime close friends with children at the school that day thus somewhat understand the reality and community impact of these events. It certainly doesn't feel like it took place over 14 years ago. My oldest son will be attending Thurston HS next year and my daughter 2 years later which makes me somewhat vested in solutions of effective protection.

Since this event the local school districts have placed officers in the 7 local high schools. Demographically our metro area has approximately 175,000 people. 14 years later it has proven effective in what I would consider a region with a high ratio of firearms per household.

Yes, up until this morning it was a good idea to arm teachers and a popular idea. I am willing to bet it has dropped significantly since it was now suggested by the NRA spokesman. It would be totally voluntary as it is already in some states.

http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/a...o-arm-teachers

http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/tea...to-arms/vknjT/

http://www.covnews.com/section/12/article/35341/


Even then it would be talks instead of Neanderthal style bantering.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Saw this today...

Rick Godwin ‏@ricklgodwin

"Was listening to several celebrities outraged at guns. No one should have them. However their bodyguards carry guns?? Hypocrisy moment!"

[57hemicuda]

The gun Genie is already out of the bottle, there is no way to put it back in. You could never collect every weapon, and once again only the bad people would have them.

Some blame this craziness on violence on TV and movies. Hell when we were kids, John Wayne, and Clint Eastwood killed everyone in movies, and we never went crazy. I still say its the decline of the family, Mom isn't able to spend the time in little Tommy because she is at work. I don't know what the answer is, but I know more knee jerk laws aren't going to fix anything. Just gives our stand up politicians more face time on TV, and they can tell us how much they care, while they are sticking the screws to us.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by 57hemicuda

The gun Genie is already out of the bottle, there is no way to put it back in. You could never collect every weapon, and once again only the bad people would have them.

Some blame this craziness on violence on TV and movies. Hell when we were kids, John Wayne, and Clint Eastwood killed everyone in movies, and we never went crazy. I still say its the decline of the family, Mom isn't able to spend the time in little Tommy because she is at work. I don't know what the answer is, but I know more knee jerk laws aren't going to fix anything. Just gives our stand up politicians more face time on TV, and they can tell us how much they care, while they are sticking the screws to us.

Agree on all points. The growth of dual income parents is major element at the heart of declining values and ethics within the younger generations IMO.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by compos mentis

Saw this today...

Rick Godwin ‏@ricklgodwin

"Was listening to several celebrities outraged at guns. No one should have them. However their bodyguards carry guns?? Hypocrisy moment!"

That's funny.

When you think about it... Obama probably has 10 or 15 guys with machine guns within yards of him -- and snipers with 50 cals on every rooftop -- but that's OKAY! Why? Because he trusts those people -- so it must not be about guns - it must be about the people with the guns.

[Ketzer]

Dammit GW, If you don't stop trying to apply logic to this... We are at knee-jerk defcon 5 and you keep trying to be rational!



Jeff-

[Shmoov69]

More tinfoil hat..... I've seen this stuff on a local car site, I'm not searching this stuff out myself. BUT..... It makes you think for sure!!


"This is coming from a non-bias opinion on gun control, but there ARE a few obvious things, that make you wonder.

Watch this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fn_nYrUmRkE

Then this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE

Then this O_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShgdN8arHCc

[nicks67ca]

Originally Posted by Shmoov69

More tinfoil hat..... I've seen this stuff on a local car site, I'm not searching this stuff out myself. BUT..... It makes you think for sure!!


"This is coming from a non-bias opinion on gun control, but there ARE a few obvious things, that make you wonder.

Watch this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fn_nYrUmRkE

Then this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE

Then this O_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShgdN8arHCc

Make you think that there are a lot of people with to much time on their hands. These links and claims are total BS. I know MULTIPLE families that lost members and to put these types of claims out there is just nonsense. If these were indeed actors wouldn't you think some of the other families would come out and say...hey thats not the same father I met at PTA meetings, thats not the same mother I sat next to in church, thats not the same uncle i played football with. Is the media, the left, the right, and 5 minutes of fame people are playing this for all its worth and its makes me sick. Not as sick as these "conspiracy theory" people. Now the medical examiner probably wasn't the best person to speak but the idiotic questions by the media was just as insulting.