Forged 418 ls3. Goal: 800ish rw daily, 1000-1500capable. Lets talk boost..

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by irishlsxer

OF COURSE, ANY STREET RACING I DID WOULD BE IN MEXICO

So you'd prefer to be in a Mexican prison?



Are you any relation to George? AKA G-Man?

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

So you'd prefer to be in a Mexican prison?



Are you any relation to George? AKA G-Man?

[irishlsxer]

this 408 lq9 makes 700whp on pump gas in Denver
@ 13psi in a 4800lb suv without the meth through a 4l75 and NEVER GETS AN INCH above normal heat with just a cowl hood and medium sized mishimoto three cord rad. when I do drive it, I DRIVE it. but then again, ive never autocrossed it either.

[irishlsxer]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

So you'd prefer to be in a Mexican prison?



Are you any relation to George? AKA G-Man?

lol so no street racing, then? k, i apologize. I was simply musing. I wouldnt street race.
I have been known to regurgitate spanish sonnets in the middle of tequilla and or dos equis. we could be related....

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

So you'd prefer to be in a Mexican prison?

[makoshark]

Originally Posted by irishlsxer

lol so no street racing, then? k, i apologize. I was simply musing. I wouldnt street race.

And the Pope doesn't wear a funny hat

[Vegas69]

Originally Posted by irishlsxer

You bring some great points. Let me be a little more specific. First off my intentions were never to autocross the car at the 1000 hp level. The mere notion of that is simply ridiculous. In fact Rarely will it ever be driven at that level, however we WILL make something very close to 1000 on pump gas just to say we did, period. I also have friends with 700-800hp cars and we all haggle each other about whos faster stoplight to stoplight, plus im planning on a few standing mile events, so occasionally it will see max boost. I confess im still on the fence about the power adder, but I dd an a&a'd Vette in the summer with just a cam'd ls2 and an upgraded radiator that makes 600whp at 9.5psi and NEVER GETS A SMIDGE HOT OR HAS ANY TROUBLE, period, so I already know that the 600-700hp range über reliably is easily doable with a centrifugal, although obviously not creating the even power throughout the range that a roots will make.

For the record, the breakdown goes something like this: 30% autocross, 40% cruiser (including some longer trips: power tour-ish type things), 20% speciality events like the Texas mile and possibly some higher speed road course and race track type stuff later on. And last, 10% show car; i don't really care about that right now. I'll probably just attend the local shows that are close and convenient. Personally when I think of people talking about regret in "driving their showcar" it mainly refers to the 20k paint job. And I'm completely avoiding that for now. I'm going to save the details for a possible build thread later, but I digress.

I definitely agree with most of what you're saying, but then again I would never build a 150k car with a carb'd motor either. So truly, to each his own. Honestly my end goal is pretty much what you said, verbatim; to build something that can handle whatever I throw at it. I guess im really trying to just bake my cake eat as much of it as i can. I'd be an idiot if I didn't agree that there will be bumps in the road along the way, but I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on it. Im just digging the ability to pick some great brains here as I go. Do you miss your car yet? I wish I'd have had enough to just dump it on yours all at once, it was way more than worth what you got for it. Then again I know i would've cringed every time I looked close at that mirror black paint after an event

Have you seen the Kenne bell liquid cooling systems? Ive talked to Jeff at Tpe there in Vegas a few times since kb started drilling cooling holes in those and he spoke highly of them

You have previously stated that you want to road race the car. I've chimed in but I can tell you are simply looking for approval of your ideals. Good luck....

[Matt@BOS]

Originally Posted by irishlsxer

I wondered how hard on his kalis really was and how much street time it got really. So a 1000hp tt setup like that stays cool enough to dd apparently as long as youre not pushing it hard?

Daily driving it isn't a problem. High horsepower custom built turbo setups will never offer maintenance free operation for thousands of miles, especially when being pushed hard. There are so many components in the drivetrain that will be strained that you will probably always be fixing something. Josh's car is perpetually evolving and receiving various upgrades to make it 'better.' I think it is just the nature of that particular beast. If you're building the car for the 60+ mph roll racing that is popular today, either legal or illegal then you probably need your 1000 horsepower to partake in today's automotive equivalent of a d*** measuring contest. If that kind of racing isn't your main concern you can build a much more reliable engine that is easy to drive on a road course of autocross.

[irishlsxer]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

You have previously stated that you want to road race the car. I've chimed in but I can tell you are simply looking for approval of your ideals. Good luck....

Man NOW the hostility?
Definitely not just looking for approval, i just have 0 experience building a road race setup. Maybe I should've said Im looking to build a setup that can be tuned For some light dragging then tuned down for the autocross type stuff? I may not kno what I'm doing, but I'm not an armchair qb. Its going to get built, and im going to autocross it. Believe me I'm listening, cause I'm not trying to just build a big Grenade. Like I said, I've got some great people behind me locally, I just wanted some other opinions cause my engine guy is just one guy. Furthermore you asked me to prove you wrong? To come here and go against everything all the smart, battle tested guys say, Couldnt be further from my intentions. No ****, I have no pride when it comes to this stuff, im and not ashmed to say i know nada. Ive done high hp cruisers, but never tackled anything of this magnitude. It was a real eye opener to realize that the cooling aspect is such an extensive thing and so hard to keep under wraps. I'll do whatever I have to keep it cool, but if I'm hearing everyone correctly, it's not an issue of money or dedication, sounds like its just basically impossible with the boosted higher hp numbers unless your just short blasting it?? I could've called nre or Kurt urban and asked the same questions and got the same answers, as least they would've kept the eye rolling to themselves mostly. They may be stupid questions, but at least I'm honest. So much for there not being stupid questions, cause you smug asses have definitely made me feel great..lol

[irishlsxer]

Originally Posted by Matt.A

Daily driving it isn't a problem. High horsepower custom built turbo setups will never offer maintenance free operation for thousands of miles, especially when being pushed hard. There are so many components in the drivetrain that will be strained that you will probably always be fixing something. Josh's car is perpetually evolving and receiving various upgrades to make it 'better.' I think it is just the nature of that particular beast. If you're building the car for the 60+ mph roll racing that is popular today, either legal or illegal then you probably need your 1000 horsepower to partake in today's automotive equivalent of a d*** measuring contest. If that kind of racing isn't your main concern you can build a much more reliable engine that is easy to drive on a road course of autocross.

Roll racing my be **** measuring but if you're going to try to convince me that doesn't go on around here or on the autocross scene, I not buying it. Even friendly measuring is still measuring. My general question was simply Are there no options that include a setup that can do both with a different tune, pulley, boost level, etc??