2nd Gen sub under 1st gen?

[itsals1]

Dumb question ! BUT was wondering if the body will bolt together with the frame or Not! I have someone that offered me a 2nd gen sub and was thinking I wonder! Or will I just be money away?
Thanks
Travis

[coolwelder62]

They are differant enough it would take quite a bit of fab work to get it under the car.

[itsals1]

Thanks Scott!
That's what I thought. What about here under project threads Livewire, they used 2nd gen control arms on a 1st gen frame? What advantage does this offer over stock? Is that just a bolt on or are there mods involved?
Travis

[coolwelder62]

Originally Posted by itsals1

Thanks Scott!
That's what I thought. What about here under project threads Livewire, they used 2nd gen control arms on a 1st gen frame? What advantage does this offer over stock? Is that just a bolt on or are there mods involved?
Travis

I don't have any idea.As soon as I used my 1st gen 2nd gen sub frames to build my jigs.I got rid of them.What are U trying to do.There are easier ways to build on a budget.

[itsals1]

Just looking into some different ways to be cheap as I never seem to to have enough , I guess I should of opened a pizza parlor instead of a garage door business ( inside joke)

Thanks
Travis

[David Pozzi]

There was a guy on Team Camaro forum that did a 2nd gen sub swap into a first gen. The sub holes were very close to bolting in.

[coolwelder62]

You might be able to weld the center section out of the 2nd gen into the center of the 1st gen. if there they are close to the same width.I dont have a sub frame to measure here.

[itsals1]

Dave,Scott ,
Do see any advantages of using the 2nd gen sub under a 1st gen,vs. SpeedTech or RideTech's 1st gen factory sub kits? I really want to build a nice driving/handling camaro. Planning on SpeedTechs torque arm, just trying save some cash were possible.
Travis

[David Pozzi]

The second gen sub is more narrow at the frame rails & will clear wide tires a bit easier. Not really better in suspension geometry. The steering geometry is better. The steering column & shaft alignment will need some work.
The Team Camaro member did the swap quickly in his garage, so it was pretty simple to do.

[David Pozzi]

First gen sub http://pozziracing.com/Media/F_gen_Firebird_sub.jpg
Middle mounts on a first gen Camaro are 40 5/8" apart.
Second gen is 42"
Second gen sub http://pozziracing.com/Media/72camaro_sub_dim.jpg

Here's a photo I saved of the swap. sorry it's not very good.