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Old 03-13-2013, 09:40 PM
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Check the other side to make sure it's not close to suffering the same fate. That's one of those deals that happens in pairs.
Will do. Already have a pair of studs on order from Wilwood in case something similar happens in the future. The one I pulled out was toast with the caliper bolt stripped and stuck on. I'm still not sure why the stud started backing out of the bracket. It looked like it had red loctite on it. I suppose lots of heat, vibration and general abuse might have had something to do with it.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:49 PM
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Weekly excitement!

The quickest way for me to get onto the freeway in the morning is to go up over a big hill and down the backside to a little known onramp. Right as I get to the top of the hill I downshifted from third to second to keep the car from lugging at around 20mph. After doing so the car just dropped revs like it was in neutral, so I made sure it was in second gear, and it did the exact same thing. Then I tried third. Same issue. None of the gears worked. For those who have never been in a situation like this, it is not a great feeling. At. All. Luckily I was able to coast to the bottom of the hill and call AAA for a tow truck. Even with the car off and in gear, it wanted to roll downhill. I was looking for any visual sign of damage and couldn't see anything. After an hour the tow truck had arrived and loaded up the car. Off to Best of Show we went. When we got there Dick was cool enough to throw the car up on the lift right away to have a look. We were both a bit puzzled as to what the issue was. Nothing seemed to indicate a clutch or transmission failure. No, clunks, leaks, or crunching noises were ever heard. With the car in gear and up on the lift we were able to spin the rear wheels freely. Not a good sign right?

Here is what we found after taking the center section out of the car...


Yes, those are all of the bolts that are supposed to hold the ring gear in place. Over the last two years they slowly managed to all "fall out." My apologies for the poor photo quality from my aging cell phone, but I think you can all see those mangled and pinched bolts. Apparently the last bolt worked its way out right at the top of the hill. I'm not sure I have ever been so lucky in my life! It could have happened at speed while I was at the track, or it could have happened in stop and go traffic during morning rush hour if I had gone the other way.

I understand that these cars need a nut and bolt check on them periodically, and I always go over suspension and other critical parts of the car before driving on a track, but I'm betting none of you guys take your 9" assemblies apart to check over. I wouldn't be that upset about it, but I purchased this part from DSE who uses a Moser Assembly. I think the idea here is that both myself and DSE are putting our trust in Moser. Maybe it is just me, but I don't think something like this should ever happen. Those bolts were a little on the short side, but most of all, they had zero evidence of any type of thread locker, nor did they have washers. It would be one thing if I pulled the housing apart one day and one bolt fell out, but all ten? What if one of the bolts had fallen out and been kicked up into the gears while I was driving? This could have been disastrous. I haven't even called Moser up. Anyone thing it is worth while? I'm sure all I will get is a typical, "we've never seen that happen before," response...
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:21 PM
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chances are that Moser will not do anything, or at lease require you to ship everything back for inspection. I don't want to say anything negative, but I will tell you that we no longer use Moser, but have had great success with Strange.

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Old 03-22-2013, 07:29 PM
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Never ever in all my life around quite a few cars and car guys have I ever heard of anything like that happening. Dead serious. Never.


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Old 03-22-2013, 07:32 PM
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I haven't even called Moser up. Anyone thing it is worth while? I'm sure all I will get is a typical, "we've never seen that happen before," response...
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:55 PM
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Since you purchased it from DSE I would call them first. It is there responsibility to warranty their products. Let then handle the claim, replacement and all cost associated. It is clearly poor quality control.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:05 PM
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chances are that Moser will not do anything, or at lease require you to ship everything back for inspection. I don't want to say anything negative, but I will tell you that we no longer use Moser, but have had great success with Strange.

Jason
Thanks for the recommendation on Strange. I have slowly been losing faith in Moser. I was a little bugged by my experience with their 9" with Torino big bearing ends. But that was really due to my actual use versus their intended use. I had a friend with one of their full floaters, which he described as a piece of junk that fell apart. In all seriousness I never really considered calling them, because I figured it wouldn't be worth my while, I figured I'd ask in case anyone had an overwhelmingly positive experience.

Greg, I'm not sure it is a good thing or a bad thing that you've never seen anything like this. I seem to have the best luck for having the best outcome from some of the worst luck.

Skip, I'm not sure name dropping OUSCI would work when they asked what my name was and I said Matt Alcala, spelled M-a-r-k S-t-i-e-l-o-w.

Marty, I was going to let the DSE folks know about it when they made their way down for Good Guys Del Mar. However they choose to deal with it is fine by me. I did purchase the part back in '08, so I don't expect anything from them, especially if Moser were to just blow them off.

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Old 03-22-2013, 08:07 PM
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This could have been disastrous. I haven't even called Moser up. Anyone thing it is worth while? I'm sure all I will get is a typical, "we've never seen that happen before," response...
First off - You're very fortunate it went down like it did. Thinking of all the possible worse case scenarios.........this is nothing but pure luck! How would the car react if it happened while you were hard on the throttle through a 3rd or 4th gear sweeper?

You need to address this with Detroit Speed and they apply the leverage on Moser.

I'm no consumer rights or law suit advocate but the negligence and potential liability associated with the components and assembly needs to be addressed by both the supplier and manufacturer IMO.

All said, I'm glad you're able to post your findings and your repair costs are insignificant to other scenarios.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:10 PM
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If it had been a big block, they would have sheared, not fell out. Just thought I'd point that out.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:18 PM
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Never ever in all my life around quite a few cars and car guys have I ever heard of anything like that happening. Dead serious. Never.


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