Your views on guns.

[GrabberGT]

Originally Posted by Dayton

Gun control? Forget gun control, I'm now more worried about assault pressure cookers!
Who the hell needs a 6 liter pressure cooker?
We all know a 4 liter will suffice a normal family.
The 6 liter should be reserved for the military.

The best post on this thread.

I think our problems lie more with the desensitization of our youth to violence. Maybe Im getting old but I've actually found a show on prime-time network TV I wont watch. Despite the great story line, I find the violence and gore present in the show "Hannibal" to be absolutely ridiculous. Add in all the 1st person shooter horror games and gore movies and no wonder we've got so many issues. Were are the parents who let their kids watch this stuff. But even to that point, its getting harder and harder to filter thru all of it as a parent. Nightly news, cartoons for kids and even commercials while watching approved TV cartoon shows are even too much to filter out.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Tony_SS

I will disagree and tell you that our rights come from our creator and the founders gave us a Republic, not a Democracy, to protect those God given rights.



Anyway, I hope at least now you understand that the 2nd wasn't to form a standing army, but to protect individuals from the abuses of one.

Word!!! Very same reason we can protest, same reason why criminals don't rule the streets and the same reason we will never be invaded by a foreign military force.

[SuperSport]

Originally Posted by Spiffav8

Screw it...

No not anyone can own a gun legally. Morons like you

I want to apologize to MexMan for posting my view in a thread called "your view on guns"
I know my view is neither liked by Pro gun and anti gun supporters.
I honestly don't have time to debate the matter word for word with the members here. I will step out of the topic before things get out of hand. Spiffa8 if we ever cross paths we can discuss this topic. I would love to.
Also, please include your name calling as well, in person though. There are too many internet bad asses that can get away with name calling behind the safety of their computers. I would like to see if you have the cajones to do it in person. I live in the Los Angeles area and would like to continue the debate with you someday, let me know when.
I am out. Please be civil guys.
SS.

[garickman]

I'm through also, Vince hurt my feelings.

[Z10ROD]

Garickman I like your responses and yes I am also a gun owner

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by SuperSport

I want to apologize to MexMan for posting my view in a thread called "your view on guns"
I know my view is neither liked by Pro gun and anti gun supporters.
I honestly don't have time to debate the matter word for word with the members here. I will step out of the topic before things get out of hand. Spiffa8 if we ever cross paths we can discuss this topic. I would love to.
Also, please include your name calling as well, in person though. There are too many internet bad asses that can get away with name calling behind the safety of their computers. I would like to see if you have the cajones to do it in person. I live in the Los Angeles area and would like to continue the debate with you someday, let me know when.
I am out. Please be civil guys.
SS.

Count on it.

[SuperSport]

Originally Posted by Spiffav8

Count on it.

P.M. me when your in town.

[69znc]

Gary

[COLOR="Red"]garickman;480143]

The second amendment states "A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

When the second amendment was drafted, The United States did not have standing Army. As a result, our new nation depended on on-call militias. Because the people are members of a reserve militia, they keep and own there on military equipment, hence the wording in the second amendment.

Contrary to popular belief, the second amendment was not enacted to fend off a tyrannical government. There is no law, statute or Constitutional provision that exists in this country to allow someone to fight domestic tyranny, which is generally described as oppressive with absolute power vested in a si
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If you really believe our Constitution was not drafted to fend off a tyrannical government you need to talk to some independent Constitutional scholars and spend more time reading how fragile and "out of mainstream" i.e. people really wanted to kill the founders and YES the fear of another tyrannical government drove them to risk there lives to move this independence forward.....

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Tony_SS

It's clear you are fascinated with power and authority, so I'm not to argue with that.

If you believe that our rights are granted to us from a federal govt, and the Constitution is a living document to be interpreted by a infallible supreme court, then so be it. I will disagree and tell you that our rights come from our creator and the founders gave us a Republic, not a Democracy, to protect those God given rights.

But please enjoy the fact that WA and CO have legalized marijuana. I know that drives you authoritarian types nuts. But the 10 amendment > than some Supreme court opinion saying that a federal drug war is "Constitutional".

Anyway, I hope at least now you understand that the 2nd wasn't to form a standing army, but to protect individuals from the abuses of one.

To understand the Bill of Rights and Constitution is to understand the reason why this country declared independence: Freedom.

Originally Posted by SuperSport

I want to apologize to MexMan for posting my view in a thread called "your view on guns"
I know my view is neither liked by Pro gun and anti gun supporters.
I honestly don't have time to debate the matter word for word with the members here. I will step out of the topic before things get out of hand. Spiffa8 if we ever cross paths we can discuss this topic. I would love to.
Also, please include your name calling as well, in person though. There are too many internet bad asses that can get away with name calling behind the safety of their computers. I would like to see if you have the cajones to do it in person. I live in the Los Angeles area and would like to continue the debate with you someday, let me know when.
I am out. Please be civil guys.
SS.

Oh come on you freakin pansies.
"insert the gradual humming of the national anthem"
Never appologize for speaking your mind or voicing your opinion. If you cannot do so then all the fighting, the dying that made this country and us free has no meaning and it was seemingly all in vain. Typical antis, you lack the passion required to meet the task. Carry on with the group hug.

Oh you can appologize for being a doosh. That's fine.
And another thing, I will never push my opinion, I will never tell you what or how to think. I will however give you things to think about and will always have an open mind. And if I hurt your feeling Greg, good, that will help you remember why. LOL

[garickman]

Originally Posted by Z10ROD

Garickman I like your responses and yes I am also a gun owner

Thanks, but now you have suckered me back into this thread.