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It's great to see such a diversified collection that you are putting together. Look out Charlie.
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SW, I can tell you from experience, who ever put that GTO back together knew their stuff. I have a 70 GTO vert, and let me tell you, I've never seen as many moving parts on a front clip (hood, fenders, endura, lower valence, etc.) as a 70 GTO. I had four Uncles who worked at the GM Lakewood plant where the GTO's, GS's, and Super Sport Chevelles (and bus chassis) were built.
I remember visiting the plant on "Orbit Orange" day, and as a ten year old, it was quite a sight to see up close.I had no idea I was looking at some really expensive cars (in future terms). I remember my Uncle Gordon's station, after all the fenders and hood and lower valence had been hung loosely, along with the endura bumper. His station was where all the stuff got it's final alignment. Here's the clincher. The tool they used to measure tolerances and gaps in the endura to fender, hood and lower valence was a business card. It had to slide tightly between all the joints, They could bust one through in about 25 seconds, with two other guys putting the final lock down on all the bolts holding that front end together. It looked like they were doing a well coordinated dance. It's quite a great memory.
The reason I say all that is I rarely see one with all it's joints fitting as tight as yours does. Especially on a Orbit Orange car. Great find and yes, auto RAIII cars did indeed come with 10 bolts. They are tough as a two dollar steak. I've owned a few GTO's and Judges and that's one component I never had an issue with, regardless of the burnouts I threw at it.
Great find. Looking forward to how you "SW" it up.
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SW, I can tell you from experience, who ever put that GTO back together knew their stuff. I have a 70 GTO vert, and let me tell you, I've never seen as many moving parts on a front clip (hood, fenders, endura, lower valence, etc.) as a 70 GTO. I had four Uncles who worked at the GM Lakewood plant where the GTO's, GS's, and Super Sport Chevelles (and bus chassis) were built.
I remember visiting the plant on "Orbit Orange" day, and as a ten year old, it was quite a sight to see up close.I had no idea I was looking at some really expensive cars (in future terms). I remember my Uncle Gordon's station, after all the fenders and hood and lower valence had been hung loosely, along with the endura bumper. His station was where all the stuff got it's final alignment. Here's the clincher. The tool they used to measure tolerances and gaps in the endura to fender, hood and lower valence was a business card. It had to slide tightly between all the joints, They could bust one through in about 25 seconds, with two other guys putting the final lock down on all the bolts holding that front end together. It looked like they were doing a well coordinated dance. It's quite a great memory.
The reason I say all that is I rarely see one with all it's joints fitting as tight as yours does. Especially on a Orbit Orange car. Great find and yes, auto RAIII cars did indeed come with 10 bolts. They are tough as a two dollar steak. I've owned a few GTO's and Judges and that's one component I never had an issue with, regardless of the burnouts I threw at it.
Great find. Looking forward to how you "SW" it up.
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Enjoyed your recollections of those days Jim.
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Great car SW! Cool story Jim! And you're right... to get an original endura nose to fit today is a real pain. I have a friend with a '70 and it took 3 noses to even come close.
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It's great to see such a diversified collection that you are putting together. Look out Charlie.
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Hahaha, Charlie is my hero, I will never have the cars he has.
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you forgot hood tach!
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Streetking, the GTO Judge came with a 12 bolt rear end. The rear end pictured above is a 10 bolt. Not a huge deal, just hope its been changed, and your not buying a clone car, from a seller who didn't quite tell you everything.
It's a beauty, none the less!
1970 was the first year that Pontiac put a 12 bolt rear in, from my research.
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I noticed the rear and thought the same thing, but wasn't for sure so I didn't say anything bout it.
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Streetking, the GTO Judge came with a 12 bolt rear end. The rear end pictured above is a 10 bolt. Not a huge deal, just hope its been changed, and your not buying a clone car, from a seller who didn't quite tell you everything.
It's a beauty, none the less!
1970 was the first year that Pontiac put a 12 bolt rear in, from my research.
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It's a 400 ci auto w/ air and 3:23 gears it has a 10 bolt. The later cars and 455 ci motors came with 12 bolts and 4 speed cars. I did a search on Performance years and just talked to the previous owner..
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It's a 400 ci auto w/ air and 3:23 gears it has a 10 bolt. The later cars and 455 ci motors came with 12 bolts and 4 speed cars. I did a search on Performance years and just talked to the previous owner..
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That 10 bolt is a Pontiac spec and should not use c clips like the Chevy variant. I'm pretty sure at that time Pontiac did not offer a 12 bolt because their 10 bolt was just as durable.
That shifter is probably a slap stick style (or it should be) Pull it down in first and you should be able to just smack it to the right and it should shift up.
Does it have the ram air tub? Is the 400 a d port RA III or roundport RAIV either of those would be really cool.
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