Budget '69 Camaro Track Car - NO WHINERS!

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I'd start with what the pan was engineered to hold as windage is no bueno. Jason Pettis made a point to tell me never to over fill my crank case for that exact reason. If you are running out of pressure on long sweepers, it's time for a better pan or accumulator, not more oil.

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Accumulator --- easy to plumb... and will protect your oil pressure.

I close the valve to mine before shutting down -- and open it before starting to create oil pressure. At least that's the way Charley told me to do it.

Can you set an accumulator up to introduce oil at a specified oil pressure? Once that oil is introduced into the system does it retrieve it back when pressures are adequate?

[Vegas69]

You can set them up with a solenoid so they only open below a set pressure. That's for a street car to solve the hastle of opening and closing a manual valve. I ran a manual valve on my car and left it close on the street. (Mixed the oil up once in a while to burn off moisture) I'd then just open it on track days and rev up the engine an close it at the end of the day. Beat the ever living crap out of my car and never had an engine problem. That and a great engine builder.

[Track Junky]

So with a manual set up how did it know when to introduce the oil? And once it introduced the oil how did it know when to return the oil back to the canister?

[Track Junky]

Moroso's Accumulator is connected to the pressure side of the engine's oiling system. When the engine is running, oil pressure forces reserve oil into the accumulator and compresses the air ahead. If oil pressure should suddenly drop because of hard acceleration, severe cornering or hard braking, the air pressure immediately sends oil to the main galleries. When the danger is over and the pump is once again primed with oil, the oil pressure forces oil back into the Accumulator where it is ready for the next emergency.
Moroso has 3 types of Accumulators. There is the original Accumulator which can be used for street or track. The Heavy Duty Accumulator is designed for extreme applications and all-out competition. The Accumulator 2 is highly recommended for light-duty applications including small-displacement street performance and mild off-road vehicles. All are available in a 1.5-quart version while the Accumulator and Heavy Duty Accumulator also have a 3-quart version. The 1.5-quart version is perfect for small displacement and 4- and 6-cylinder engines while the 3-quart is for 8+ cylinder applications. Moroso Accumulators come with a manual ball valve (except Accumulator 2), unlike competing models.
Moroso Accumulators can also be used to manually pre-lube engines before starting to prevent cold-start scuffing and premature bearing wear.

[Vegas69]

Anytime the pressure in the accumulator exceeds the oil pressure in the engine, it pushes oil into the bearings. Let's say you are humming around a corner with 60 psi and you have starvation and the pressure starts to drop, the accumulator with push oil into the engine until the pressure equalizes. Once it equalizes, the accumulator will be at full capacity again momentarily. If you were to lose all oil pressure, it would oil for 3-4 seconds. When you shut off the engine, the accumulator empties into the engine. When you start the car, oil pressure will be low until it fills the accumulator.

[Track Junky]

Thanks, got it.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Thanks Dale. There is a sheetmetal piece that Vince fabbed up that completes the connection to the firewall. We had been using it with the lid set up and needs to be cut down a bit. I forgot to bring it home from the shop.

Funny you mentioned the holes. I didn't really notice them until you pointed them out. I'll have to see if they actually do aid in introducing air into the box.

no, the whole inner section has a separate pan...its closed off to those holes.

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Can you set an accumulator up to introduce oil at a specified oil pressure? Once that oil is introduced into the system does it retrieve it back when pressures are adequate?

what ever pressure you had at shut down, there is a shrader valve on the side, maybe you can?? Never researched it.

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

what ever pressure you had at shut down, there is a shrader valve on the side, maybe you can?? Never researched it.

Let me know when you got time to help me install an accumulator. Anytime after June 30th and before August works for me.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Let me know when you got time to help me install an accumulator. Anytime after June 30th and before August works for me.

Gonna have to be in August. When is the next battle? August or September. Send me some dates.

I have been wanting to change out all of your lines too, also make an aluminum cooler mount...for a year now.

[Track Junky]

Hoping to make August 3rd then Sept 15th