Which is the better tire overall?

[Matt@BOS]

Originally Posted by Flash68

Well as you know we often have to choose between the size we want to run and what is available. It's nice to see the Rival is a targeted tire for the segment. Would be nice if other options would emerge.

The treadwear ratings mean pretty much zilch as far as consistency.

Speaking of arbitrary treadwear numbers, the SCCA guys have a hunch that we'll be seeing more 200TW tires soon because rules are changing and limiting street tire classes to 200TW instead of 140. I have no idea how true that is, but Hancook has already changed their popular tire from 140 to 200, supposedly because it was wearing better than expected. Still that is really only good news for us guys with little bicycle tire sized 295s.

[Rod P]

Originally Posted by sik68

PS2's are OLDSCHOOL now. They came out in like 2004.



FWIW, Tirerack recently ran this comparison test:

BFGoodrich g-Force Rival
Dunlop Direzza ZII
Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08 R
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11A

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=172

Cliff's notes: The Direzzas had the fastest lap time; the Rivals had the overall best Dry Track rating.

Imagine that the Rival wins in all their categories and there the exclusive distributor, of them, Huh? what a coincidence

[randy]

ps2 might be old now but thats what im running. Im a area sales manager for NTB and to me its pretty hard to beat the ps2. If they made the super sport in my size i would buy it. The ps2 has more tread depth than the rival, the tread width of the ps2 is .5" more also.

So more tread and wider tread width i just cant see how the rival can beat the ps2. Now the rival is cheaper but for me i was able to get the ps2 cheaper than ever other tire.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Dipped

Super Sport 300 Tread Rating
PS2 220 Tread Rating (Stickier)

Comparing a Michelin product to a BFG is not even fair. At least offer up a Pirelli or Continental lol

Somebody needs a TW rating explanation

Originally Posted by Matt.A

. I guess it is all a moot point for you, well... maybe not. The limited sizes in the other brands wouldn't stop Rob from running them on his Torino.

I can stretch a 225 onto my 13" rears.

[Bryce]

Im thinking about running 245s on my 17x8 and 255s on my 17x9.5

[Musclerodz]

I have both tires here and just looking at tread pattern the ps2 should be the better "4 seaons" tire.

[chicane]

PS2's are an Ultra HPS >summer< tire... and not recommended in cold weather climates. There is no '4 season' about them.

In respect to a 245x40x18 on a 18x8 on the daily driver.

Hot and dry, like here in Vegas... they are very predictable, even on the threshold. They exhibit gentile departure characteristics at the slip rate and come right back to you with light steering input. However, they suck in cold weather... and do not drive them in a spirited manner with standing water or in sluury/snowy conditions. Not very forgiving by any means with a chassis that isn't very compliant.

In my opinion, the PSS tire overall... is even better than the PS2 in hot and dry climates with the same characteristics noted above. Don't get me wrong... I LOVE my PS2's... but the "driver" will be seeing a new set of PSS's in about another 10-12k miles of my level of abuse. Which seems to be just about every time I strap the car on.

Another thing with both of the Michelin offerings... then tend to 'tramline' noticeably on concrete surfaces.

On another note: I too am somewhat interested in thrashing a set of Rivals. I have had excellent results with BFG's product line.

Tough decision...

[SLO_Z28]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Ventus+R-S3
The Hankook is 200TW now (up from 140) but has not been changed. The hankook is a amazing tire with decent size choices.

[The T-man]

Michelin PS2

[Zspoiler]

It depends on what you are going to do with the car,and what you can afford.Performace tires are usaully a softer compound than dailey drivers.