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**214Chevy** · #1 11-13-2013, 08:15 AM

Not bragging, nor trying to start an argument, but my engine with Kenne Bell 3.6 supercharger will be near $30k once all buttoned up. The shortblock alone is $10k. Blower was $7500. $4k for a set of heads. There's $21.5 right there. By the time I add in a $2k+ Autorad, $1k clutch, $2k accesory drive, $1500 harness, valve covers, tuning, plug wires and coils, ARP bolts throught, nice Russell fittings, tuning and install, etc....you can see where I'm going, huh? And my car is just a street car. It will see no parts of a track ever. I'm just not a track guy....sorry. But, anyway, I can cut about $4500 off of that budget if I go with a resleeved GM LS7 block and not the RHS, but a supercharged motor isn't cheap buy any means or no stretch of the imagination. Trust and believe, I've thought about it and rethought about it daily. Still might go N/A becuz of the total price. I have a buddy of mine in Louisiana that's ready to buy my Kenne Bell if I decide to not do the supercharged engine. I'm still weighing my options as we speak. But, if I go N/A, I've got a BIG surprise for you guys.

seankc31 · #2 11-13-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 214Chevelle

Not bragging, nor trying to start an argument, but my engine with Kenne Bell 3.6 supercharger will be near $30k once all buttoned up. The shortblock alone is $10k. Blower was $7500. $4k for a set of heads. There's $21.5 right there. By the time I add in a $2k+ Autorad, $1k clutch, $2k accesory drive, $1500 harness, valve covers, tuning, plug wires and coils, ARP bolts throught, nice Russell fittings, tuning and install, etc....you can see where I'm going, huh? And my car is just a street car. It will see no parts of a track ever. I'm just not a track guy....sorry. But, anyway, I can cut about $4500 off of that budget if I go with a resleeved GM LS7 block and not the RHS, but a supercharged motor isn't cheap buy any means or no stretch of the imagination. Trust and believe, I've thought about it and rethought about it daily. Still might go N/A becuz of the total price. I have a buddy of mine in Louisiana that's ready to buy my Kenne Bell if I decide to not do the supercharged engine. I'm still weighing my options as we speak. But, if I go N/A, I've got a BIG surprise for you guys.

I got the same feeling you got and now I'm questioning weather I really can afford it the LSA/4L85E... I been thinking bout going just with a normal LS3 setup but it isn't really what I want and I think it will still be over 15k to do that install...Why did i pick such an expensive hobby

**214Chevy** · #3 11-13-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by seankc31

...Why did i pick such an expensive hobby

Ohhh brother, you have no earthly idea.

renegade6 · #4 11-13-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by seankc31

Why did i pick such an expensive hobby

It's an incurable sickness.

fishface · #5 11-13-2013, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by renegade6

It's an incurable sickness.

Lol! Don't I know it. Over $40k in mine so far and havent scratched the surface of what I want to do. Anyway, as someone once said, in the big scheme of things we are only here a short time. So if it makes our little worlds go around and makes us happy, its not wrong.

Sparks67 · #6 11-13-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by seankc31

I got the same feeling you got and now I'm questioning weather I really can afford it the LSA/4L85E... I been thinking bout going just with a normal LS3 setup but it isn't really what I want and I think it will still be over 15k to do that install...Why did i pick such an expensive hobby

I think the best way is to spread out the overall costs. I had a custom LS3 418 with a Harrop TVS2300 and I spec out the parts in the build. The build took about 9 months, but I was just paying a little at a time.

Simmo · #7 11-13-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 214Chevelle

Not bragging, nor trying to start an argument, but my engine with Kenne Bell 3.6 supercharger will be near $30k once all buttoned up. The shortblock alone is $10k. Blower was $7500. $4k for a set of heads. There's $21.5 right there. By the time I add in a $2k+ Autorad, $1k clutch, $2k accesory drive, $1500 harness, valve covers, tuning, plug wires and coils, ARP bolts throught, nice Russell fittings, tuning and install, etc....you can see where I'm going, huh? And my car is just a street car. It will see no parts of a track ever. I'm just not a track guy....sorry. But, anyway, I can cut about $4500 off of that budget if I go with a resleeved GM LS7 block and not the RHS, but a supercharged motor isn't cheap buy any means or no stretch of the imagination. Trust and believe, I've thought about it and rethought about it daily. Still might go N/A becuz of the total price. I have a buddy of mine in Louisiana that's ready to buy my Kenne Bell if I decide to not do the supercharged engine. I'm still weighing my options as we speak. But, if I go N/A, I've got a BIG surprise for you guys.

Sounds like a killer motor there ^^^^

Sean, I think your answer is in the above post.

Take 214Chevelles $30K build, take $21.5K off for the long block and charger (apples and oranges compared to the LSA crate) = $8.5K

Add that to your $11K crate motor and you might as well say $20K (likely less if you shop around/do some stuff yourself).

So if your goals are a supercharged LS in the 600hp range you'll be in about $5K deeper than the LS3 if this thread is anything to go by

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If your goals are 800hp+ be prepared to spend some more $$$ now, or build the ancillary systems with this in mind (as much as possible) and swap out the crate LSA when you've got a more stout long-block/charger.

Blevinator · #8 01-01-2014, 03:28 PM

C&R Racing now makes a 67-69 intercooler (due to LSA popularity)
It is made to work with a factory core support along with a Vintage Air drier.
No hood latch modifications necessary. Buying one for my Edelbrock LS3 setup.

http://www.semashow.com/press/2013/0...for-69-camaros

Sparks67 · #9 01-01-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blevinator

C&R Racing now makes a 67-69 intercooler (due to LSA popularity)
It is made to work with a factory core support along with a Vintage Air drier.
No hood latch modifications necessary. Buying one for my Edelbrock LS3 setup.

http://www.semashow.com/press/2013/0...for-69-camaros

According to this thread, you need to mod the hood latch with the C&R Racing 67-69 Heat exchanger.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...ght=C%26R+heat

Not sure on the issue, but probably the center support needs to modified.

paulk68 · #10 01-05-2014, 12:57 PM

Here is my other question, This is my first build so maybe i am missing something. But after shopping around I found crate engine depot sells the LSA for 10,795. on the other had texas speeds sells what they call a turn key LSA same HP for 16,999.99 and that uses gm lsa oil pan, gm lsa front drive kit and a gmpp engine controller kit. does it really cost over 6k to get one of these motors to turn key?