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[camcojb]

The rules of the feedback section only allow the original person leaving feedback and whomever they are leaving feedback for to post in the feedback threads. If you have a question or reply please pm George directly. Thanks.

[navyflyer72]

Here is a link to a thread I started when my car went to Prodigy. Pay close attention to the dates and realize that the long gaps in posts are when I was deployed. Then my posts #30 and #32 call Frank out for not moving ahead on m build in over 2 years. The he blows up and threatens to post me emails (go ahead, I will too, they support all my allegations against him) he says I'm $5000 behind in payument for labor. OK, let's do some math. If Frank is charging me $50/hour labor (military rate) that would be 100 hours. So far all he did was was halfway install SFCs and Minitubs, and that's all they ever did to my car, minus removing parts that they sold, or stole (see above post for list of these parts)

Here is the link to that thread:

http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/5...rodigy-Customs

Regards,
George

[navyflyer72]

Here is a thread from when was laid up in a Canadian Field Hospital in Kandahar injured in May 2008. This post shows that Frank knew about the Navy pay SNAFU and you can see from the above invoices that at the time of this thread Frank had $16,500 of the $23k for parts, he received $2500 in June and $7000 in July of 2008. If you read the post from Frank from the link in the above post you will see that Frank claims to have had to buy $20k in parts with his own money since I didn't pay him. In reality he had $16,500 when he started work, so even if he had bought the parts all at once the most he would have been out of pocket would be between $3000-$6,000. But based on the numerous stories of Frank never ordering parts, and taking months and years to get parts, its a safe bet that he is lying here, and he never ordered the parts, if he did, well then, where are they?

http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/4...tan?highlight=

[navyflyer72]

Here is another email that I pulled from the archives. This is an email from Frank in Jan of 2008, before he came to pick up my Camaro. He says verbatim:

"Even if your not ready $$$$ we could tuck it away until we are both ready. it will be a couple months before I am ready anyway."

Here's the email.

[navyflyer72]

Here's the email right after that one stating that his labor rates are normally $60, but for military he charges $50.

[navyflyer72]

forget to attach the email, here it is.

[navyflyer72]

Here's an email from Frank from April 1, 2008, in it he says that he has ordered all the parts on the invoice and they are in and that the only parts they are waiting on are the Wilwood brakes. If you recall from the above attachments, Frank had $7300 in cash from my parts I sold, and then he received $8600 in two credit card charges on 4 and 5 April.

[navyflyer72]

After that email I called Frank and we talked about the labor to finish and I told him I was close to having what was required. He explained that he had a few cars ahead of me anyway so I would be up after these two cars were finished. He references these two cars in his email on 13 November right after SEMA. He makes reference to trying to get my Camaro done by New Years, as a New Years gift to me.

"I am playing catch up and planing my future, LOL!

We are tidying up on some projects and working the schedule.. We will get you in the shop in a couple weeks and start picking away at it.Maybe a nice New Years present for you?"

[navyflyer72]

So Jan 1st, 2009 came and went and all my calls/voicemails to Frank went unanswered, finally I got through to him in late January on the phone and he says that he is about to start on my Camaro, and that he thinks he can get her finished by April (2009). See attached email.

[navyflyer72]

Rather than paste the attachment into the email, I have just copied the emails chains.

Here is an email chain that started with my email at the bottom of the chain in May 2009, Franks email at the top of the chain is from June 5, 2009:


Hey George. I guess we need to determine the total work list. That work list kind of grew once the car got here. If it is the original work list doing mini tubs and mechanical, what I am still looking at is 120 hours ($6000) to put it back together. Back together being replacing the subframe, rear suspension, rear, brakes, wheels / tires, engine, and install mini tubs. That has not changed. As I mentioned, I did have to raise labor rates, I am not bumping your labor cost. But I also need to know your able to pay once we get going.

Weather you run it to William for stereo and interior stuff, that is up to you. That will obviously be additional.

Frank Serafine
Prodigy Customs
Pro Touring Specialist
www.ProdigyCustoms.com
407 832 1752 Direct line



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [FWD: Project Flyin Blind status]
From: George Hartwell <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, June 02, 2009 7:59 pm
To: [email protected]

Frank,

When you can, send me a labor estimate to install the parts you have to get her all put together and ready to go. The original estimate was about 120 hours at $50/hr for a total of about $6000 in labor. I am working the budget out with Stacey so that we are ready when you are.

I would really like to get this finished before I head down to Florida around mid summer.

Let me know.

R, George

From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:39:29 PM
Subject:RE: [FWD: Project Flyin Blind status]

Hey George, So sorry I forgot to call back,. I just totally forgot, Then I had a 3 day advanced fuel injection class, then I remembered I needed to call, and started to call again, but a another call came in, and then I forgot, Bla, Bla, Bla.

Your leaving messages on Lisa's phone I think, I do not have any messages on my phone unless they are from today which I have not checked the messages yet.

A year ago we were ready and on a roll till the **** hit the fan. We would have been done in a month as I had that project scheduled to be the primary focus. No hard feelings on our end, but by the time I got the all clear you were ready to move forward, we have been slammed to death since. Business actually has been very good, VERY busy

I am going to have to pick away at your project and can start that later this week. I just have too many projects now that are on schedule and the customers money is ready right now to stop one of those to push yours through.

Also, we had to increase out labor rate due to increased rent, utilities, insurance and every fricken other cost of business expense. However I am going to honor our labor rate we gave you. But I need to be able to work your project through the system so it is not quite as much of a hit for us financially.

Anyway, I just tried to call you, call me when you can.

Frank Serafine
Prodigy Customs
Pro Touring Specialist
http://www.prodigycustoms.com/
407 832 1752 Direct line


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [FWD: Project Flyin Blind status]
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, May 05, 2009 2:08 pm
To: "Frank Serafine" <[email protected]>



Lisa Serafine
Prodigy Customs
407-832-1824


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Project Flyin Blind status
From: George Hartwell <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, May 04, 2009 6:45 pm
To: [email protected]

Lisa,

I called Frank twice last week and once to you and left messages. The one time I did get a hold of Frank he was about to get his hair cut and said he would call back, never did. I know you guys are busy, but I need a status of my '67 and a finish date.

I know I left you guys in a bit of a bind last year when I got deployed and I didn't have the funds to continue, but it has been over a year now and I think we can both agree that finishing my car and getting some space freed up and some money in your pocket and my Camaro back in my garage is better for all of us.

So when you get a chance could you send me an updated status of my car and a projected finish date. Thanks.

Appreciate any info you can pass at this point.

R, George