Greg Weld's 65 Mustang fastback track car

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Flash68

It's fun to try to make these old junkers do something nice and keep up with those Vettes.

And it's more fun to make those Vette pilots drive past their talent level chasing your old junker.

[GregWeld]

I found some interesting information for the Top Track lap times at Spring Mountain Motorsports.... We'll see if you guys can figure out why I'd find this interesting..... LOL




Top 25 SMMP 2.2 mile Lap Times
1:43.052 (Brent Bauman; 07 Exige S; Yoko Slicks; 212whp/~2070lbs w/driver; Nov 09)
1:43.343 (Andy Kern; Lotus 211; R6; 220whp/1860lbs w/driver; APR 10; video)
1:48.2xx (Eddie Park; 05 Elise; R888; 227whp/~2000lbs; Nov 09)
1:52.978 (Thomas Barrett; Corvette Specialty C6 Vette; A6; 400hp/~3700lbs; Oct 09)


Top 25 SMMP 2.3 mile Lap Times
1:55.76x (AJ Latteri; 06 Exige; Yok Slick; hp?/~2200lbs; Oct 08; Video)


Top 25 SMMP 2.7 mile Lap Times
1:56.867 (Andy Kern; Lotus 211; R6; 220whp/1860lbs w/driver; APR 10; Video)
2:01.99x (Manly Kao; 05 Elise; R888; 165whp/~1900lbs; Oct 08; Video)


Top 30 SMMP 3.1 mile Lap Times
2:13.057 (Billy Johnson; FXMD Turbo NSX; Yoko Slicks; ~600whp/~2700lbs with driver; Sep 09)
2:23.98x (Brent Bauman; Jack's 2010 211; Yoko Slicks; 240whp/~1885lbs w/driver; Mar 10)
2:26.264 (Andy Kern; Lotus 211; Yoko A005/S01; 220whp/1,840lbs w/driver; Oct 10; Video)
2:27.25x (Jack Fried; Lotus 211; Yok slicks; 255hp/~1860lbs w/driver; May 10; Video)

[Sieg]

Only two cars have over 240 whp?

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Only two cars have over 240 whp?

Well actually with more digging around -- I haven't been able to find any OFFICIAL track times for SMMP... You'd think that would be easy info to find out. This came up in a search - and it's a website where you post your own times - so it's really only that those particular guys found the site and posted to it. But those times - from what I can find - are very very fast.

I would think the Radical SR8's could wipe up on the little Lotus - and both Andy Kern and Jack Fried (as you know) have them. So I would think if they could run better in the Radicals - they'd have posted that up?

[Sieg]

I would have thought the 8 cylinder Radical's would have been quicker too. They certainly look like the real deal. The RX8's are in the 1500 lb. category with 400+ hp.

[Panteracer]

The first time our Pantera group ran with the Radicals in Pahrump was
a real awaking... I am running in our race group and all of
a sudden I see this yellow flash in my mirror and then gone
I look to the outside of the corner and in the marbles and the
guy was passing me and gone.... it took a few times out
to figure that what is flashing in my mirror does not effect
me because by the time I figured it out he has passed me
and gone

Very fast and light and to drive them in the marbles is really something else

Panteracer Norcal Bob

[GregWeld]

A guy I met - that is/was the Lotus Cup Unlimited Champ in his Lotus 2 Eleven - has a garage there at SMMP - and also has a Radical... Sieg and I met up with him when we were there for OUSCI... I think he said he can pull 2.5 G's lateral in the Radical.

That's some serious Lateral G's... <get it? Pun intended>

Originally Posted by Panteracer

The first time our Pantera group ran with the Radicals in Pahrump was
a real awaking... I am running in our race group and all of
a sudden I see this yellow flash in my mirror and then gone
I look to the outside of the corner and in the marbles and the
guy was passing me and gone.... it took a few times out
to figure that what is flashing in my mirror does not effect
me because by the time I figured it out he has passed me
and gone

Very fast and light and to drive them in the marbles is really something else

Panteracer Norcal Bob

[onevoice]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I would think the Radical SR8's could wipe up on the little Lotus

And it would. It is very hard to compare times between cars/tracks/drivers and come out with meaningful numbers, but one source I did find is from Top Gears test track times:

Radical SR3 1:19.1
Lotus Elise 1:28.2

A 211 would be considerably faster than a Elise, but it is essentially comparing a race car with something derived from a street car.

I love that you have the 211, and look forward to some comparisons between it and the Mustang. I bet in the long run, the Lotus will be faster and CHEAPER to run than the Mustang.

[GregWeld]

The emperor has new clothes!!! Can't thank Brian Hobaugh enough for his EXCELLENT service ---- and even more so -- just for taking this job on!!!





All naked and drowned rat looking with all the body removed....









And beautifully re-bodied, as if it never happened!

[Stuart Adams]

Looks better than new.