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Old 07-08-2014, 11:37 AM
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Nice!

Of course it would suck if a Mortar took out the Drone!
It would suck even more if the Drone took out an airplane.

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What surprised me was that drone with articulating camera mount is under $1K.

$1358 w/ GoPro 3+ http://www.amazon.com/DJI-Phantom-Ze...om+2+vision%2B

A video screen to monitor flight w/ upgraded controller would be a must have IMO. Add another $580. http://www.amazon.com/DJI-Phantom-Fl...K3PWEYH20N1H6A
Please tell me you're not buying one.
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:07 PM
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Please tell me you're not buying one.
The kid's had an AR Drone for 5 years or so.........

Being able to pack a camera would be entertaining..........there's this nekkid beach on the river about 2 miles from the house that should be surveilled. LOL
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The kid's had an AR Drone for 5 years or so.........

Being able to pack a camera would be entertaining..........there's this nekkid beach on the river about 2 miles from the house that should be surveilled. LOL
Please keep it 60' AGL or below!
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That's not my personal view of fireworks.... THIS was always my view....







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And then my personal view of July 5th......






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......and after all that work.........oops!

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......and after all that work.........oops!




We had that happen to one barge in 1998 when the Pyro (Jose) on that particular barge didn't flip the switch on the firing box from 24V's to TEST mode... TEST mode would send down MILLIAMPS About 100 "cues" went off - it was on the 3rd and during the day - so we had time to pull shells from other barges and re-do/alter - the show so nobody knew it happened.

A brief explanation:

These large shows are shot using a laptop --- a "cue" (a line of code) can be 1 shell or multiple shells in multiple locations on set. Typical New York City show runs about 600 cues (which is, for that show, about 4500 shells). The laptop sends a signal to a firing box when it's time for the cue to light... the firing box sends 24V's to an electronic match called a squib... the squib lights the "quick match fuse" -- which then travels almost instantly (quick match travels around 100 to 300 feet per second) to the LIFT CHARGE -- lifting the shell to it's predetermined height. At the same time the lift charge goes off -- it subsequently lights a TIMED (slo-blow) fuse which lights off the detonation charge to light up and blow apart the shell.

What Jose didn't do was flip his firing box into test mode -- and a computer can count down 600 cues pretty F'n fast! Lucky for him - he realized what he'd done and flipped it -- saving most of his barge.

The Idiots in San Diego (this video) didn't know what to do.... and lit 'em all off... That's AMATEUR HOUR right there. Which is why only real pro's are usually running the big shows.



Here's a half shell showing the LIFT charge -- then you can see the timer fuse:











Where the red paper is covering the "quick match" --- we would tear off that paper covering -- slip a Squib inside -- fold it several times and seal it up with tape... The squibs have about a 6' two wire (zip wire) that we would then strip out -- careful place the shell into it's mortar.... and wire the squib to it's appropriate "pins" in the address box... large multi strand cables run from each address box back to the firing box.




In this photo -- the quick match is shown exposed. It WOULD NEVER BE exposed when done properly (thus the taping up after the squib is inserted).












Each mortar or "cake" is then capped or covered with tinfoil so as to protect it from accidentally being lit by the sparks and fire from a shell that was intentionally set off....


At the end of a show -- you knew when you had a live round (a dud or a good live round that just failed to fire) in a mortar because the tinfoil would still be intact! Then you got to look down the mortar --- and then reach in there and pull it out and put it away in a special box! That was the WORST PART EVER BEING A PYRO!!!! That SOB could go off without any warning and you're sticking your arm down that tube!! I hated that part. UGH.










WE always covered our racks and mortars with plastic until we got in to place in case of rain -- then we'd remove the plastic sheeting -- RAIN was normal in NYC at the end of June or in July... HOT and HUMID is the word for that part of the world in the summer.....
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Think of it as a big ol' birthday cake for freedom!



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Obviously PRE 9/11/2001 -- and we'd just done the largest show in America for July 4th, 2000.... since 1976. I took this photo July 4th 2001....






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And then my personal view of July 5th......






nice Daisey dukes greg. LOL
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nice Daisey dukes greg. LOL




All my clothing - except shoes - was tossed in the garbage at the end of every work day.

Most of the mortars we used were steel - they get wet (takes 10 days or so to build a show) from rain or splashed on from being barged up the East River... they're rusty nasty POS -- now add to the mix -- spent gun powder.... little bits of paper from what's left of the lift charge... and SAND used to pack and secure the mortars....

Now add to this HOT AND HUMID heavy duty work.... which ='s SWEAT. ALL DAY sweating like a pig - and handling this stuff... We had a term for it -- it was called being CORN DOGGED..... you were covered in sand/paper bits/spent powder and rust...

Your clothes STUNK -- and were not to be tossed in any washing machine. They should have just been doused in gas and left to burn. The pay more than covered the expense of "new".

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