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[Vegas69]

I'll wait for the facts, and post judge. It's a shame for a kid to die so young. It's also a shame that in this day and age, his death is made a spectacle all over the internet.

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by glassman

Well said Ron. I kinda thought that too with the blipping of the throttle, combined with the variables of low lighting, black suit, traffic, watching your line, etc....Its an unfortunate event and my prayers go out to all parties involved.

From a guy with limited dirt experience and lots of friends with lots of experience. Beyond the items list above you also have a big wing hanging down blocking Tonys view up track. You also have the car in front him blocking his view and you also have the fact the cars have not been collected under the yellow at this point. The caution should have come out when Ward went flipping but it still takes 3-4 laps to collect the field and have them slow down to yellow flag speeds. And every driver I spoke to today said to drive a sprint car you push on the gas when you turn the steering wheel. It becomes an instinct. And the throttle response on those engines is unreal.

Like it was said before he should have stayed in or at least near his car. Heck he could have been hit by some one just checking up for the yellow.

Super sad deal, but the judgement on this deal by the armchair racers is crazy.

[glassman]

Originally Posted by ironworks

From a guy with limited dirt experience and lots of friends with lots of experience. Beyond the items list above you also have a big wing hanging down blocking Tonys view up track. You also have the car in front him blocking his view and you also have the fact the cars have not been collected under the yellow at this point. The caution should have come out when Ward went flipping but it still takes 3-4 laps to collect the field and have them slow down to yellow flag speeds. And every driver I spoke to today said to drive a sprint car you push on the gas when you turn the steering wheel. It becomes an instinct. And the throttle response on those engines is unreal.

Like it was said before he should have stayed in or at least near his car. Heck he could have been hit by some one just checking up for the yellow.

Super sad deal, but the judgement on this deal by the armchair racers is crazy.

Roger, i never meant to pass judgement on anybody, sorry if i was missunderstood. I meant too say Tony probably didn't see him, at least i hope that is what truely happened.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I don't think Rodger meant any of us here. I think we all will not judge. We recognize the tragedy.

There is a lot of internet talk about him hitting him on purpose. Hell even witnesses in the video thought so.

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by glassman

Roger, i never meant to pass judgement on anybody, sorry if i was missunderstood. I meant too say Tony probably didn't see him, at least i hope that is what truely happened.

This was the most logical discussion I have seen. My facebook page has gone crazy with even about ready to get a rope for Tony and everyone knowing how to drive a sprint car.

I'm not pointing any fingers just pointing out the obvious and agreeing with your list.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Like I mentioned, I'm about 1hr away from that track.

Tuned into the local talk radio station there and caught a sprint car driver explaining to the (thankfully level-headed) host, about how the handling/steering works on those cars.

They also discussed how it is strongly emphasized in drivers meetings to never get out of the car unless absolutely necessary.

It was helpful for open minded listeners I believe.

[DRJDVM's '69]

The kid almost got hit by another car right before Stewart hit him.

The bottom line is that the kid made a bad decision and it cost him his life...that's not Tony Stewarts fault. Our society has grown into a place that when something goes bad there always has to be someone to blame.. everyone but the person that made the choice they made. The rule to not get out of your car is there for a reason...he disregarded it and the choice cost him his life

Its a tragedy that such a young kid lost his life and I feel for his family, but that tragedy directly resulted from the choice he made, plain and simple

To suggest that he was hit on purpose is insane

[Ketzer]

Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69

The kid almost got hit by another car right before Stewart hit him.

The bottom line is that the kid made a bad decision and it cost him his life...that's not Tony Stewarts fault. Our society has grown into a place that when something goes bad there always has to be someone to blame.. everyone but the person that made the choice they made. The rule to not get out of your car is there for a reason...he disregarded it and the choice cost him his life

Its a tragedy that such a young kid lost his life and I feel for his family, but that tragedy directly resulted from the choice he made, plain and simple

To suggest that he was hit on purpose is insane

^^ This ^^


Jeff-

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69

The kid almost got hit by another car right before Stewart hit him.

The bottom line is that the kid made a bad decision and it cost him his life...that's not Tony Stewarts fault. Our society has grown into a place that when something goes bad there always has to be someone to blame.. everyone but the person that made the choice they made. The rule to not get out of your car is there for a reason...he disregarded it and the choice cost him his life

Its a tragedy that such a young kid lost his life and I feel for his family, but that tragedy directly resulted from the choice he made, plain and simple

To suggest that he was hit on purpose is insane

^^^the right point of view^^^

I don't follow that kind of racing at all. But while watching the video all I could think was the that the guy is a retard. The track isn't that wide or long and his car blocked about 1/3 of it. Then he gets out and walks onto the lower half of the track where everyone has to go to avoid his car. He didn't leave any room for anyone to avoid him and he's wearing black, at night, on a dimly lit track. That goes against everything you where taught as a kid.

Was this guy wanting to make a big deal and get attention because it was Stewart? Probably. Act all big and bad with the celeb for personal gain kinda thing.

A tragedy? No. A tragedy is when a civilian airliner catches fire, crashes in the ocean killing everyone and no one can find it. This is Darwinism and the only one to blame is the guy who decided to play in traffic.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Oh come on Curtis, you don't really believe that. The guy made a mistake.Yes, Did he deserve to die, no.
When you are out in the action nightly you tend to forget where you are and how dangerous it can be.

Tragedy cause someone lost a son over a hot temper and someone has to live with the fact that a young person died in front of them.