69 Camaro Project - Dead Pool

[glassman]

Sorry to hear about the "ongoing" issues. I guess when we try to make our cars better than a factory BMW we will run into "sorting" out issues. Only one thing i continue to learn being a car guy/builder= Patience! I didnt have a lot of that when i was younger, but we dont have a choice. I know you know this but i feel for ya. I took this week off to install my a/c, well it took five weeks to get here and yep, you guessed it, wrong kit. EFF!

Your car is one of my favorite 69's of all time, i mean, color, rims, driveline, seats, attention to detail, etc. I absolutely love and would love to own an equivelent to it some day.....(or this one lol since your frustrated with it, JK)

Anyways, it was nice meeting you at Sonoma, and sorry for interupting you lol.

Mike

[214Chevy]

Wow Ron!! Sorry I don't have any advice to give you as many times as you've answered the phone or returned my calls and gave me great advice. I can offer mental support and say, I hope it gets better. This is just a small hurdle that you will conquer with no problem. Don't worry...fret not, the car will make you proud..

[SSLance]

Bummer about all of the shakedown issues Ron, a lot of us have been there done that and know pretty much what you are going through first hand. The positive attitude you've kept through the troubles is commendable.

Think about it this way though...imagine how your attitude would be if you did not have the ability or know how to work on cars yourself and had just checkbook hot rodded a shop to build this car for you...and then kept having these same issues that we all know surface on a build like this...after the shop was done with it, had been paid and you had the car at home.

At least with this route, you'll know what it took to fix the issues and once they are finally fixed right, you won't have to deal with them again and you'll have that knowledge to use the next time you build a car. Plus, when you are hammering the car around a course or track you'll know in the back of your mind exactly what it took to get the car to run that well. That is worth a TON to me anyway.

[intocarss]

You know the old saying...

If It Has Wheels Or A Skirt Ur Gonna Have Problems!! You'll get it sorted out

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by intocarss

You know the old saying...

If It Has Wheels Or A Skirt Ur Gonna Have Problems!! You'll get it sorted out

Dawgers......ya left out Props!

[GregWeld]

I got a good laugh out of Lance's post about you doing the work.... Obviously he isn't tracking for the last decade. LOL


I was on the chassis dyno and the fitting blew out of the rack... took the threads with it. That's the problem with running a REBUILT rack... and aluminum with steel fittings... and who the hell knows the fit on the threads. Might have been galled when the old fitting was removed and took half the threads with it. I bought a BRAND NEW rack to "fix" the problem.

Funny thing about building these cars.... I've buttoned up motors that I've built personally which includes cutting ring gaps etc - and fired 'em up - set the timing and adjust the carb and drove to Reno and back.... and I've had pro built motors that didn't last the week... and pro built motors that never leaked or did anything but work as they should.... I've had two hot rods pro built now - one was a complete hassle and the other was a complete joy. Go figure.

Not all body shops are good mechanics and not many mechanics are good body people... very few have the staffing to have great mechanics and great metal workers and paint people all under one roof... and these cars get taken apart and put back together during the build so many times it's a wonder any of them ever run at all.

Add to this - now we also expect the builders to be a suspension specialists for our PT builds... Oh yeah - and we got the front end from someone and the rear end from somebody else - and then we changed our plan 6 times.

In other words -- welcome to hot rodding.

[SSLance]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I got a good laugh out of Lance's post about you doing the work.... Obviously he isn't tracking for the last decade. LOL

I typed that part out 3 or 4 different times trying to not offend anyone...and finally just took the high road.

In the end, the car owner IS the only one that has to make sure all the parts and pieces work to his\her liking. It's not a whole lot different than building a house...someone has to make sure all of the sub contractors are getting things done correctly and they'll all tell you, it's not THEIR fault...when things go wrong... Even the general contractor on a job has to be held in check to make sure things get done right.

My brother just had a blow up with a paint shop over the painting of the front fender of his Harley. A simple $275 job turned into a month of mistakes, lies, threats, excuses, more lies, and eventually a customer taking his job out the door, unfinished and unhappy about it. At least an experienced hot rod builder realizes that these things happen and just rolls with the punches.

[Richio1]

Originally Posted by intocarss

You know the old saying...

If It Has Wheels Or A Skirt Ur Gonna Have Problems!! You'll get it sorted out

Ron... sorry to hear about the issues. We've all been there. I was in the same boat when you guys were playing at Sears Point. The bad news is, this will likely not be the only rodeo for you.

But once this is fixed, check it off the list and move on to the next item. My car has been "done" for a year and I have had it in my possession for 6 months. The other 6 has been working out bugs, changing set ups, and swapping out old vendor parts for their new parts. It will be going back in soon for more "tweaking" then we should be done except for some maintenance things annually... unless he talks me into Stack Injection.

You'll get there. Plus it never rains in So Cal so you have nothing to worry about. You can drive it all year long.

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by intocarss

You know the old saying...

If It Has Wheels Or A Skirt Ur Gonna Have Problems!!

^^THIS!!
Good luck Ron.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by glassman

Anyways, it was nice meeting you at Sonoma, and sorry for interupting you lol.

Mike

Don't ever ever ever interrupt... THE Ron.