eGarage 1969 Camaro

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by JB400

The creativity on this Camaro is really good. I'm impressed with how this one is turning out.

Why wasn't the Charger given similar details?

Wouldn't it get kind of lame if they did the same thing on every car? Seems like you're kinda hating on the Camaro. I get it if you're saying you love the work and the details, but personally like Chargers more and therefore would like to have seen them used on that build. Though I gotta tell ya, if that's it, it's not coming across that way and you're just sounding like a hater.

FYI

[214Chevy]

Originally Posted by Roadster Shop

I'm not sure why you are hating on the charger for lack of details or fabrication. (I think this is your 2nd or 3rd post about it now) There is an insane amount of detail in this car that maybe you do not see.

I was wondering what he was talking about myself. I just figured maybe he didn't notice the one-off wheels, custom interior, custom rear tail, etc. Don't know how he could have overlooked it, but maybe he did. I think Stevie Wonder could see the amount of work that went into the Charger.

[JB400]

I have no complaints on the fabrication. While I haven't seen it in person, for what I've seen on here is top notch. Probably way better than what I could ever do. However, the end result makes it look like it's a Mopar for someone who doesn't want a Mopar. Personally, I like what you guys did to the tail lights and the hockey stripe down the side. But, since this thread is about this Camaro and you'll be starting a thread about the Charger later, I'll hold off on any further comments about the Charger in this thread. Or, we can discuss it in pm. And yes, I own a Charger, so I can see what body mods were done to it.

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by JB400

I have no complaints on the fabrication. While I haven't seen it in person, for what I've seen on here is top notch. Probably way better than what I could ever do. However, the end result makes it look like it's a Mopar for someone who doesn't want a Mopar. Personally, I like what you guys did to the tail lights and the hockey stripe down the side. But, since this thread is about this Camaro and you'll be starting a thread about the Charger later, I'll hold off on any further comments about the Charger in this thread. Or, we can discuss it in pm. And yes, I own a Charger, so I can see what body mods were done to it.

Pictures only tell a small part of a story. If you have not seen any RS car in person then I would reserve any and all judgement. They are one of the best shops in the industry. Also, you do not know what the owner requested RS to do, they may have wanted it to look untouched, although it is very far from it. I don't think everyone likes every little thing RS does, or any other shop for that matter, but you know what they say about opinions.

[waynieZ]

It looks Sweet! I love seeing what you guy's are going to do next.

[Al Moreno]

Originally Posted by JB400

I have no complaints on the fabrication. While I haven't seen it in person, for what I've seen on here is top notch. Probably way better than what I could ever do. However, the end result makes it look like it's a Mopar for someone who doesn't want a Mopar. Personally, I like what you guys did to the tail lights and the hockey stripe down the side. But, since this thread is about this Camaro and you'll be starting a thread about the Charger later, I'll hold off on any further comments about the Charger in this thread. Or, we can discuss it in pm. And yes, I own a Charger, so I can see what body mods were done to it.

I'm sure RS will be happy to build you one just the way you'd like it.

[214Chevy]

Originally Posted by Musclerodz

... but you know what they say about opinions.

Yeah, they're like a$$h......uhhh, nevermind.

Originally Posted by Al Moreno

I'm sure RS will be happy to build you one just the way you'd like it.

Hahaha, for a small nominal fee.

[JB400]

Originally Posted by Musclerodz

Pictures only tell a small part of a story. If you have not seen any RS car in person then I would reserve any and all judgement. They are one of the best shops in the industry. Also, you do not know what the owner requested RS to do, they may have wanted it to look untouched, although it is very far from it. I don't think everyone likes every little thing RS does, or any other shop for that matter, but you know what they say about opinions.

I have to disagree with you. There is no doubt that RS is one of the best shops out there. It's shops like these that are the trend setters. They're the ones that's going to get the media coverage, and it's their ideas that are going to get copied by lesser shops that will ultimately lead to the creation of parts that you, yourself will stock on your shelves for the local car guy to put on his ride. Now, if you see an idea that doesn't look right, or a concept car that looks dull, are you going to let shops like RS know what you think, or are you going to be a sheep and let them steer the industry in the wrong direction for the next 5 years until a better concept comes along? Just to remind you, your pocket book and way of life is on the line.

Personally, I think it's great that they done a Mopar, and a Charger in particular. Imo, the Mopar aftermarket has been stagnant the last decade. Parts that the Camaro and Mustang guys take for granted now, are just now trickling down to the Mopar guys. Looking at your Mopar section in your online catalog, as I'm sure you know, it's quite small compared to Ford and Chevy. While I myself and only one person, there are several thousand with Mopars that have the same opinions as I do, and the same taste in parts as I do. Since I maybe a possible future customer of yours, as a representative of the retail aftermarket industry, are you really sure you want me to withhold my judgment? Or, would you like me to come on here and say "Hey, I like the tail lights you did on the Charger. Someone should mass produce those.", or "Hey, the Camaro'ish interior in the Charger doesn't fit the Mopar lifestyle. How about coming up with something different?" so that they could work on another style that would get the Mopar guys excited, and if we're lucky, maybe get a few custom parts on the market? This is the only reason I'm speaking up, is so you guys know what I, and other Mopar people like me, are looking for and what we like. Custom B bodies don't get built everyday.

[RS-Chris]

Originally Posted by JB400

Or, would you like me to come on here and say "Hey, I like the tail lights you did on the Charger. Someone should mass produce those.", or "Hey, the Camaro'ish interior in the Charger doesn't fit the Mopar lifestyle. How about coming up with something different?" so that they could work on another style that would get the Mopar guys excited, and if we're lucky, maybe get a few custom parts on the market? This is the only reason I'm speaking up, is so you guys know what I, and other Mopar people like me, are looking for and what we like. Custom B bodies don't get built everyday.

While you are free to voice your opinion, this is, of course, a public forum, firstly we dont build these cars to gain cool points from the Mopar lifestyle (whatever that is) or any particular group of people. It is not a traditional build. There are plenty of forums for those who get precious about coloring within the lines for a traditional 'resto mod'.

The customer is the one who came to us to build what he wants. Depending on the project, we have varying levels of input as to what the final product is. We choose to open these builds up on here so others can possibly benefit from seeing the 'how' or be inspired by seeing what is involved and goes into these type of builds. This isn't market research. Bottom line is the customer is the one who we are aiming to please.

Secondly, again, we welcome opinion, but lets keep this on point. This is a thread about the Camaro, yet here we are discussing your personal opinions about a completely different car. There is a time and a place...this is neither.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by JB400

I have to disagree with you. There is no doubt that RS is one of the best shops out there. It's shops like these that are the trend setters. They're the ones that's going to get the media coverage, and it's their ideas that are going to get copied by lesser shops that will ultimately lead to the creation of parts that you, yourself will stock on your shelves for the local car guy to put on his ride. Now, if you see an idea that doesn't look right, or a concept car that looks dull, are you going to let shops like RS know what you think, or are you going to be a sheep and let them steer the industry in the wrong direction for the next 5 years until a better concept comes along? Just to remind you, your pocket book and way of life is on the line.

Personally, I think it's great that they done a Mopar, and a Charger in particular. Imo, the Mopar aftermarket has been stagnant the last decade. Parts that the Camaro and Mustang guys take for granted now, are just now trickling down to the Mopar guys. Looking at your Mopar section in your online catalog, as I'm sure you know, it's quite small compared to Ford and Chevy. While I myself and only one person, there are several thousand with Mopars that have the same opinions as I do, and the same taste in parts as I do. Since I maybe a possible future customer of yours, as a representative of the retail aftermarket industry, are you really sure you want me to withhold my judgment? Or, would you like me to come on here and say "Hey, I like the tail lights you did on the Charger. Someone should mass produce those.", or "Hey, the Camaro'ish interior in the Charger doesn't fit the Mopar lifestyle. How about coming up with something different?" so that they could work on another style that would get the Mopar guys excited, and if we're lucky, maybe get a few custom parts on the market? This is the only reason I'm speaking up, is so you guys know what I, and other Mopar people like me, are looking for and what we like. Custom B bodies don't get built everyday.

Around here (Lateral G) - YOU post up a build thread of YOUR stuff... IF people like it - they'll say so. If they don't, they won't post that they don't. Why? Because it's your car and you get to build it anyway you like. Lateral G is a great website because it's about showing your hopes and dreams - showing your work - and discussions about how to do "X" or where to find "X" etc.