Ron Sutton Offset 3-Link install

[Ron Sutton]

Originally Posted by Flash68

Nope. Weld brought em... and he went home with em. What happened in between is anyone's guess.

Suuure he did.

But HEY ... it's your story. You tell it however you want.

[carbuff]

Originally Posted by Ron Sutton

Make sense?


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Got it... Makes perfect sense.

One other question while I'm here... From a top-view, are the 2 lower arms parallel to each other, or do you angle them inward towards the front of the car? You have likely touched on this in a post somewhere. I'm not sure if anyone else makes them this way, but the Lateral Dynamics 3-link that a few cars here ran angled the LCA's inward as they went forward. I'm not sure if I've ever known what the reason for that was...

[Ron in SoCal]

^ Bryan great question and one of the reasons I picked Ron's 3 link design as his are parallel. Early on I sent Ron web pics of the LD design. Ron pointed out that the angle of the LCAs would induce rear roll steer: good for rotating the rear on an autoX, not so good for high speed corners. Further, the higher speed the more roll steer induced. Now, I'm no expert but I'm thinking ideally that's not what I'd want. Better IMO to put in a rear suspension that keeps the rear planted as best as possible, tune the front for turn in and mid corner balance and let the rear compliment it. Obviously everything else plays into it (shocks, sways, balance and tuning), but that's what made sense to me.

I really like the LD fit and finish, but also think Ron's design is an improvement.

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by JSM

First off, nice stuff Ron!

Second off, sorry in advance for self promotion below but couldn't resist (would almost give you a set if you want to cut off those proprietary units you have now)

Thirdly, I think this car may actually need/justify a set of my fabricated steel C6 Uprights


For what its worth in regards to above responses, I am machining a few sets next week of this type rear setup (C6 Flange end), and could easily machine a few more if anyone is interested....

Ok, back to Ron's build!

Good stuff Jay!

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I'd like to see one modification to the design. A major adjustment available to the driver. He'll clearly be out of excuses when this one hits the road in his golden years.

Dude, the longer the build the more time to reload on excuses. Just ask Weld.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

^ Bryan great question and one of the reasons I picked Ron's 3 link design as his are parallel. Early on I sent Ron web pics of the LD design. Ron pointed out that the angle of the LCAs would induce rear roll steer: good for rotating the rear on an autoX, not so good for high speed corners. Further, the higher speed the more roll steer induced. Now, I'm no expert but I'm thinking ideally that's not what I'd want. Better IMO to put in a rear suspension that keeps the rear planted as best as possible, tune the front for turn in and mid corner balance and let the rear compliment it. Obviously everything else plays into it (shocks, sways, balance and tuning), but that's what made sense to me.

I really like the LD fit and finish, but also think Ron's design is an improvement.

You and Gaetano need to get together and coordinate your excuses why I passed you both on leaf springs and skinny tires. LOL

[Ron in SoCal]

^ right on queue

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

You and Gaetano need to get together and coordinate your excuses why I passed you both on leaf springs and skinny tires. LOL

Your not the only car still on leaf springs Mario.

You shouldn't have any problem passing Ron. Just be sure to have the back bumper back on your car when I'm pushing you passed him.

[Ron in SoCal]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

Your not the only car still on leaf springs Mario.

You shouldn't have any problem passing Ron. Just be sure to have the back bumper back on your car when I'm pushing you passed him.

Nutttin' wrong with bump drafting but be careful what you wish for.

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

Nutttin' wrong with bump drafting but be careful what you wish for.

[Vegas69]

In all seriousness, the front of these old cars is usually the major weakness, not the back. I think this is great to maximize your rear dynamics but you better make the carpet match the drapes.