Ron Sutton Offset 3-Link install

[Ron Sutton]

Hi Steve!

Originally Posted by gerno

What's the plan to laterally locate the axle. I assume a Watts. Do you have any pics of this piece and how it sits within the total rear package?

It will be a very trick watts link set-up with 6" of roll center adjustment. Photos will come when Mike Tolle is installing it.

[carbuff]

I thought I read this here in this thread, but I can't locate it at the moment... You (Ron) mentioned doing a rear axle with a 13" high upper link from the axle centerline. Looking at the side view of the axle being built here, based on these angles, that would go right through the crossmember for the rear coilovers. How do you deal with that?

Related question... If you draw a straight line between the upper and lower link mount points, it doesn't pass through the centerline of the rear axle. Why is this? Is there a specific reason that the 2 are located that way (behind the axle centerline)?

So many questions, I know... I am loving learning about these details, so thanx as always for sharing so generously!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by carbuff

I thought I read this here in this thread, but I can't locate it at the moment... You (Ron) mentioned doing a rear axle with a 13" high upper link from the axle centerline. Looking at the side view of the axle being built here, based on these angles, that would go right through the crossmember for the rear coilovers. How do you deal with that?

Related question... If you draw a straight line between the upper and lower link mount points, it doesn't pass through the centerline of the rear axle. Why is this? Is there a specific reason that the 2 are located that way (behind the axle centerline)?

So many questions, I know... I am loving learning about these details, so thanx as always for sharing so generously!

I think that maybe 13" from ground....or at least what im looking at in the picture Bryan.

The rearward offset mounting is used so you can get away with a longer links and to counter act leveraging. The longer the arms the better.

[carbuff]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

I think that maybe 13" from ground....or at least what im looking at in the picture Bryan.

The rearward offset mounting is used so you can get away with a longer links and to counter act leveraging. The longer the arms the better.

Thanx Vince...

The comment I'm thinking of implied it was 13" above the axle centerline, and that the trunk was definitely sacrificed in that application. But since I can't find it at the moment, I could be completely wrong...

[Ron in SoCal]

Fab progress. Mike Tolle has got the cross member located in the correct spot, from which everything else will be measured and installed.







Next up is the frame rails:

[glassman]

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal

Fab progress. Mike Tolle has got the cross member located in the correct spot, from which everything else will be measured and installed.

Is he in Tracy, up here?

[Ron Sutton]

Hi Mike,

Originally Posted by glassman

Is he in Tracy, up here?

Tolle Fab ... owner Mike Tolle ... is in Gold River, CA ... same as my shop ... which is a suburb of Sacramento. His shop is literally 2 blocks away from my shop. Since I don't wrench or fab on cars myself ... Tolle is one of four alliances I use here in California for my client's projects.

I use Tolle Fab for high quality fabrication work … like roll bars, cages, mounting seats, pedals, steering, fuel cells, etc. … installing my Track-Star Front Frame & Suspension … or Track-Star rear suspensions. Most racers know him by his last name "Tolle".

Tolle is a very talented race car fabricator. He's a veteran race car builder from the road racing & sports car world. He has … and still builds … high end road race cars for Tudor/IMSA, Pirelli World Challenge, Porsche Cup, Daytona Prototypes, etc.

[Ron Sutton]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

I think that maybe 13" from ground....or at least what im looking at in the picture Bryan.

The rearward offset mounting is used so you can get away with a longer links and to counter act leveraging. The longer the arms the better.

Hey Vince. Bryan was referring to a different client of mine. Ron Myers' top link mount is 5" above axle CL ... so around 17.6" above ground.

But I've done one with the top link mount over 25" above ground.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by Ron Sutton

Hey Vince. Bryan was referring to a different client of mine. Ron Myers' top link mount is 5" above axle CL ... so around 17.6" above ground.

But I've done one with the top link mount over 25" above ground.

ok, thanks ron. teaches me to butt in.

[Ron Sutton]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

ok, thanks ron. teaches me to butt in.

LOL. No worries. It is an extreme set-up.

Take care !