Jackass w/ LS9: original build and new Jackass 2.0 updates!

[catmanzr]

Hi Mark,
Are you using a stock ls9 powersteering pump? If so..... Are you using a flow control valve to knock it down to the 2.0 gpm?

I have an LSA and that motor uses a zf pump that seems to be a lone wolf. A normal type ii flow control valve does not fit. I'm trying to figure out what power steering pump to go to and also fit my LSA accessory drive. My steering is redicoulously easy.

Thanks for your time...... Dan Fisher

[Stielow]

Originally Posted by catmanzr

Hi Mark,
Are you using a stock ls9 powersteering pump? If so..... Are you using a flow control valve to knock it down to the 2.0 gpm?

I have an LSA and that motor uses a zf pump that seems to be a lone wolf. A normal type ii flow control valve does not fit. I'm trying to figure out what power steering pump to go to and also fit my LSA accessory drive. My steering is redicoulously easy.

Thanks for your time...... Dan Fisher

I have used a stock LS9 pump on the last 3 LS9 builds with a Detroit Speed rack and have had no issues. I never tried the flow reducer.

What rack are you using?

Mark

[catmanzr]

Mark,
I am currently using a Ford rack (tci pro touring suspension 67 chevyii). I've been told by 3 people now that I need to reduce my pump flow down to 2 gpm.

The stock LSA pump flows 2.7 from what I can find on google.

I called DSE and asked if I could just go to their rack and the gentleman told me that I should also reduce it down to 2 gpm. I'm sure going to their rack will make it better. I believe their rack pinion valving is stiffer than mine.

I also talked to AGR performance and he also told me to get the gpm down and go with a 15:1 and. 230 firm pinion valve rack and I would be much more happy with the "feel".

I find it interesting that yours is not reduced. Maybe with it being from a vette the steering is set up a lot more firm compared to the the cts-v
caddy?

[1nastyZ06]

Would love to see more pictures of the wheels on the car. Without the masking on the car. I really like those wheels and have thought about them but then decided to just go with Trueforged 3pc wheels. But I may hold off now until I see more pictures of the forgestars mounted on this 69.

[1nastyZ06]

Oh yeah. What are the offsets front and rear? I can't wait to see this car finished. Everything you touch turns out badass. I like the way this one is progressing.

[LS7 Z/28]

Originally Posted by 1nastyZ06

Oh yeah. What are the offsets front and rear?

Mark doesn't give out his backspace measurements for wheels. He does a lot of things to tweak the fitment like roll fenders lips, flare rear quarters, etc. What he does won't necessarily work on your car and it's not worth it to him to give them to you, then you spend a bunch of money on wheels and you're all pissed off when they don't fit your car.

You should buy a wheel fit device to make sure you have correct measurements for your car.

[1nastyZ06]

Huh????

What are you talking about? These are cast "spin forged" wheels. They offer them in set offsets with a few options and he already stated what the front offsets were.

I understand what you are saying when it comes to custom 3pc wheels but that does not apply here. Plus I wouldn't just order some random offsets. I would measure and setup for what I need and want. The look and setup I want may be different and we all have different setups as far as brakes, suspension, rearend widths and front subframe and spindle setups. I really don't know why you felt the need to speak for Mark. I'm sure he can speak for himself and if that is truly the way he feels in this particular case then I respect him for that.

I do agree with you on the part that everyone should measure for their wheel setup and not just go by something they read on a forum.

Not trying to start a fight but come on.

[LS7 Z/28]

Originally Posted by 1nastyZ06

Huh????

What are you talking about? These are cast "spin forged" wheels. They offer them in set offsets with a few options and he already stated what the front offsets were.

I understand what you are saying when it comes to custom 3pc wheels but that does not apply here. Plus I wouldn't just order some random offsets. I would measure and setup for what I need and want. The look and setup I want may be different and we all have different setups as far as brakes, suspension, rearend widths and front subframe and spindle setups. I really don't know why you felt the need to speak for Mark. I'm sure he can speak for himself and if that is truly the way he feels in this particular case then I respect him for that.

I do agree with you on the part that everyone should measure for their wheel setup and not just go by something they read on a forum.

Not trying to start a fight but come on.

Read the last post on page 1.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=49522

[1nastyZ06]

Cool. So like I said earlier....these are cast wheels with 4-5 predetermined offsets and he stated what the front was. And also like I said earlier I would not expect or ask someone for the offsets they came up with on their set of custom forged or 3pc wheels. First of all because they would do me no good and 2nd because that person has gone through a good deal of work to come up with it. At the same time I don't get why people want to keep things like offsets or spacer setups a secret. I somewhat understand on full on custom modifications done to a car that someone came up with all on their own. But still in the end in this car enthusiast community we should try to help each other out where we can. Also people should not flat out copy original ideas someone else has come up with.

In the end wheel offsets and backspacing is not some black magic or voodoo. It does take some time and measuring and a little know how. Now the other stuff that Mark does with his cars is some sort of black magic. The ideas he comes up with and executes are just flat out amazing. And I can also understand what he is saying about a simple question snowballing or even worse when people ask a question about something and then when given the answer they are clueless as to what you are talking about because they have done zero research or have not even tried to educate themselves on the basics. But these are the things someone like himself is going to have to deal with unfortunately. Gotta take the good with the bad and when you are basically considered the godfather of pro touring it's inevitable.

Didn't think I was going to have to write a novel or that my post was going to turn into this. In the end like I said I can understand what you were saying to a point. All I was saying was that it didn't apply here and that you could have spent your time better elsewhere with that post or just left out about 90% of the post and still made the same point without coming off the way you did.

But no hard feelings. Take it easy.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by 1nastyZ06

Cool. So like I said earlier....these are cast wheels with 4-5 predetermined offsets and he stated what the front was. And also like I said earlier I would not expect or ask someone for the offsets they came up with on their set of custom forged or 3pc wheels. First of all because they would do me no good and 2nd because that person has gone through a good deal of work to come up with it. At the same time I don't get why people want to keep things like offsets or spacer setups a secret. I somewhat understand on full on custom modifications done to a car that someone came up with all on their own. But still in the end in this car enthusiast community we should try to help each other out where we can. Also people should not flat out copy original ideas someone else has come up with.

In the end wheel offsets and backspacing is not some black magic or voodoo. It does take some time and measuring and a little know how. Now the other stuff that Mark does with his cars is some sort of black magic. The ideas he comes up with and executes are just flat out amazing. And I can also understand what he is saying about a simple question snowballing or even worse when people ask a question about something and then when given the answer they are clueless as to what you are talking about because they have done zero research or have not even tried to educate themselves on the basics. But these are the things someone like himself is going to have to deal with unfortunately. Gotta take the good with the bad and when you are basically considered the godfather of pro touring it's inevitable.

Didn't think I was going to have to write a novel or that my post was going to turn into this. In the end like I said I can understand what you were saying to a point. All I was saying was that it didn't apply here and that you could have spent your time better elsewhere with that post or just left out about 90% of the post and still made the same point without coming off the way you did.

But no hard feelings. Take it easy.

or if you were a true godfather fan you would have every single page memorized.

Originally Posted by Stielow

Forgestar - I got a Black Friday special of $1100 for a set of 18 X 10 fronts and 18 X 12 rears. 7 week lead time. Very nice for the price. If they break I'll be the first to know then the guardrail will be the 2nd to know.
Mark

Originally Posted by Stielow

The front are 18 X 10 with 6.125 backspacing so they do not need spacers.

The rears are 36 mm offset so I'll set axle width so no spacers.

Mark

36mm = 7.9173 in