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Old 11-11-2015, 07:18 AM
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RIGHT! SpeedTech, Schwartz, DSE, Roadster Shop arrrrggggg too much good stuff!!! .......

so what you going to do with the car?...I dont have a dog in this fight....I dont work for any suspension suppliers anymore, but maybe with questions I could help and the suppliers could chime in
This is my first build. I want to build something that has street manners so the ride is not to harsh. On my bucket list is to try an auto cross event ( maybe I will get hooked looks like so much fun) and do the power tour. So I guess I'm looking for some setup that will allow a good cross section of this.
The car is ready for mini tubs and suspension now I just want to make the proper decision so I can move on to deciding on the power train, more fun !!!

I've been selling off all my Camaro stuff to focus on this project just down to a DZ motor now and a rear end
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:02 AM
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This is my first build. I want to build something that has street manners so the ride is not to harsh. On my bucket list is to try an auto cross event ( maybe I will get hooked looks like so much fun) and do the power tour. So I guess I'm looking for some setup that will allow a good cross section of this.
The car is ready for mini tubs and suspension now I just want to make the proper decision so I can move on to deciding on the power train, more fun !!!

I've been selling off all my Camaro stuff to focus on this project just down to a DZ motor now and a rear end



Sounds to me like you should take some time and formulate an actual plan.... on paper - on budget - with a goal(s).

The chassis components should all be a consideration COMBINED with motor - headers - how you want the exhaust to run - tire sizes - inner wheel well considerations... what parts and pieces you'll need or want. Transmission and clutch / or converter choice.... rear end and all of it's linkage. In other words - leaf springs or coil overs? Four bar triangulated? Panhard bar? Watts link?

You're asking about ONE end of the car - when in reality - the car will only perform well, meaning ride and handling - when you have a plan and know what the results are going to be. If you don't - you will end up wasting time and money, and effort, and end up doing what many do -- applying bandaids.

These days - building a car to ride nice on the street is as simple as calling one manufacturer and ordering STREET RIDE parts and pieces. A Camaro with a simple LS3 motor is a known commodity and they'd all be able to set you up with shocks and springs that will work really well....

However, the minute you mention that you'd like to maybe "try" autocrossing... or any other form of "sport" with your car --- you just opened up a whole can of whoop ass. Now, instead of a simple set of single adjustable shocks - you might want to consider an upgrade to double adjustable... and different spring rates -- and tire combos that will allow the car to handle better (same size front and rear vs staggered bigs and littles). Big tires on the rear and smaller tires on the front look good - but they'll have the car pushing (understeering) on anything that requires some grip and turn in etc.

This is NOT complicated. It IS having a plan and understanding and working towards that plan. All of the manufacturers on here (and elsewhere) have components to bolt on your car. None of them can help you decide what direction you want to go. Figure that out - the rest is super simple.

I'm not saying there is not some middle ground -- what I'm saying is that if you want to hit middle ground -- then you can't pick parts that just simply will give you a decent ride on Power Tour.... and if you ask a manufacturer what parts they have that will give you a decent ride.... that's what you're going to get. If you say -- I want a decent ride but want to autocross occasionally.... that's a different discussion and set of parts. If you get hooked (your words) on doing some sport stuff with the car -- then if you're like the rest of us - you'll want to be able to do reasonably well at it. Might consider what you can EASILY and affordably upgrade with some simple changes/upgrades.

My track Mustang has leaf springs - a panhard bar - anti roll bar - and shocks - and that car goes like stink.... it's simple and effective... but the shocks are custom built triple adjustables - the springs are custom built composite monoleafs etc.... if you get my point. It's purely a track car and rides like crap until you're on the track and then it's marvelous. There's NO WAY you'd fit out the back exhaust thru all that's going on back there... and that's my point about having a WHOLE plan thought thru before you move forward.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:54 PM
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There's another way to figure it out: Try driving as many modern cars (Corvette/Mustang/BMW) as you can. Judge their handling and responses to various inputs (gas pedal/steering wheel/braking/normal person driving), then study their systems to figure out why/how they reacted in the ways they did (and why you liked/disliked them). Try driving some not-so-modern cars to compare or contrast: 5.0 Mustang/90s Camaro/older Corvettes/various hotrods. See what works/sucks--Craigslist and car dealers are full of free opportunities.

Figure out what you want as clearly and specifically as possible before paying a dime or cutting/welding/bolting.
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