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Old 01-18-2016, 12:04 AM
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Default R&P Ratio for Auto-X???

I have a 1967 Pontiac Firebird that I'm setting up for Auto-X. . .I'm in the process up doing some mild suspension, chassis, and brake system upgrades and I just found out what my rear-end ratio is. . .

2.73:1 (41/15)

I'm guessing this would not be a very desirable ratio for Auto-X.

The car is has a 400 Pontiac engine, an automatic (at the moment. . .I have no idea what stall torque converter is in the car) and I'm pretty sure the rear end is an 8.2" 10-bolt (I haven't run back out to verify it's the 8.2" yet, but I'm pretty sure it is. . .it's definitely a 10-bolt). It has squarish axle tube flanges (GM) vs. round axle tube flanges (BOP. . .at least from what I have found online).

I do plan on changing the entire rear end out in the future, but not right now. . .should I change the R&P? If so, recommendations for R&P ratio?

Thanks!
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Old 01-18-2016, 07:02 AM
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I have a 1967 Pontiac Firebird that I'm setting up for Auto-X. . .I'm in the process up doing some mild suspension, chassis, and brake system upgrades and I just found out what my rear-end ratio is. . .

2.73:1 (41/15)

I'm guessing this would not be a very desirable ratio for Auto-X.

The car is has a 400 Pontiac engine, an automatic (at the moment. . .I have no idea what stall torque converter is in the car) and I'm pretty sure the rear end is an 8.2" 10-bolt (I haven't run back out to verify it's the 8.2" yet, but I'm pretty sure it is. . .it's definitely a 10-bolt). It has squarish axle tube flanges (GM) vs. round axle tube flanges (BOP. . .at least from what I have found online).

I do plan on changing the entire rear end out in the future, but not right now. . .should I change the R&P? If so, recommendations for R&P ratio?

Thanks!
I think transmission gear ratios and wheel/tire diameter should be considered to make this decision.

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Old 01-18-2016, 05:48 PM
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It's a TH400 so it should be a 2.48:1 first, 1.48:1 second, 1.00:1 third, and 2.07:1 reverse. . .

. . .17" rims with 275/35ZR17 tires in the rear; overall diameter as measured is ~25-25.125
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R&P Ratio for Auto-X???

do you mean Rack & pinion if so....

why do you want to change to Rack & pinion...

most Rack & pinions add bump steer and limit turning radius on stock frames...

after market frames have the correct geometry designed into them with the Rack & pinion in mind
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He means Ring and Pinion. For auto-x you want a combo if engine/trans/rear axle ratio/ and tire that allows you to spend most of the course in one gear. I have seen some people go faster leaving the car in 2nd even though it does not feel faster to them. So, it depends on the combo really.
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He means Ring and Pinion.

AHHHH!!!!

Ring and Pinion...that depends on the final transmission ratio and tire diameter and engine max drive-able redline! on the current autocross tracks the larger SCCA tracks are predominantly 2nd gear tracks, the Goodguys tracks are quicker smaller 1st gear tracks....

what I shoot for is the ability to reach 70mph at edge of max redline(7000 rpm) in second gear
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